From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Ter=E4s?= Subject: Re: [RFC] SPD basic actions per netdev Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:20:40 +0300 Message-ID: <4BB43B38.1060004@iki.fi> References: <1270053478.26743.111.camel@bigi> <20100401003352.GA19147@gondor.apana.org.au> <1270089323.26743.138.camel@bigi> <20100401025247.GA19994@gondor.apana.org.au> <4BB42692.9010105@iki.fi> <20100401060145.GB20865@gondor.apana.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: jamal , "David S. Miller" , Patrick McHardy , netdev@vger.kernel.org To: Herbert Xu Return-path: Received: from mail-ew0-f220.google.com ([209.85.219.220]:42906 "EHLO mail-ew0-f220.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753421Ab0DAGUn (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:20:43 -0400 Received: by ewy20 with SMTP id 20so247290ewy.1 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:20:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100401060145.GB20865@gondor.apana.org.au> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Herbert Xu wrote: > On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 07:52:34AM +0300, Timo Ter=E4s wrote: >> IMHO, it's slightly confusing that in/fwd is split, but out is not. >> But that's the way it works. If you now override the how interface >> is checked for 'out' policy, it'll break current behaviour. >=20 > Unless I've misunderstood what his patch is trying to do, it would > seem that out policies would be completely unchanged. >=20 > Forward policies are not used on output. Oh, that right. But my statement still holds. If iif/oif is swapped, it's changing current semantics and can end up breaking setups. Both are still valid for 'in' and 'fwd' policies too, right? What if I'm using 'in' policy to make sure that all stuff arriving via 'eth0' is encrypted, but 'eth1' is trusted and does not need xfrm. This would break. I do like the idea very much. In fact I remember asking this exact feature long time ago. But I think it should be done by explicitly allowing user to specify both iif and oif; even if it's more intrusive.