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From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
	Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Edward Shishkin <eshishki@redhat.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>, Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
Subject: Re: Ext4: batched discard support
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:04:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BCC9B43.8080805@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <l2z87f94c371004191058pb88b1b89va325ceffb83ba604@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/19/2010 01:58 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Eric Sandeen<sandeen@redhat.com>  wrote:
>> Greg Freemyer wrote:
>>> Adding Mark Lord in cc.
>>>
>>> He wrote a preliminary discard solution last summer.  I'm not sure how
>>> it has progressed.
>>
>> The difference here is that Mark's stuff wasn't as tightly integrated
>> with the kernel, IIRC.  What I saw was more at a user level - make a big
>> file, map it, discard all the blocks, unlink the file.
>>
>> It was a good first step, but I think we can do a lot better by using
>> fs-specific calls to be efficient&  targeted about the discards.
>>
>> Christoph has a similar approach for XFS, FWIW.
>>
>> -Eric
>
> I haven't looked closely at this patch, but I recall Mark consolidated
> numerous discontinuous trim/discard/unmap ranges into a single command
> to the SSD drive.
>
> That was why he felt he was getting superior performance.  ie. There
> was an overhead per command to the drive that was eliminated if a
> single more complex command with multiple ranges went to the SSD
> drive.
>
> But he's the one that did the work and the benchmarking, so I'll let
> him take it from here, especially if I mis-understood what he was
> doing.
>
> Greg

This work certainly builds on Mark's early results which clearly showed that 
several devices see a win from doing larger/batched discards instead of the fine 
grained ones.

Thanks!

Ric


  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-19 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-19 10:55 Ext4: batched discard support Lukas Czerner
2010-04-19 10:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add ioctl FITRIM Lukas Czerner
2010-04-19 10:55   ` [PATCH 2/2] Add batched discard support for ext4 Lukas Czerner
2010-04-20 21:21     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21  2:26       ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21  2:45         ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-21 18:59           ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21 19:04             ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-21 19:22               ` Jeff Moyer
2010-04-21 20:44                 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21 20:53                   ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21 21:01                   ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-21 21:03                     ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-21 21:47                       ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21 21:56                         ` James Bottomley
2010-04-21 21:59                         ` Mark Lord
2010-04-23  8:23                   ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-24 13:24                     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-24 13:48                       ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-24 14:30                         ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-24 14:43                           ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-24 15:03                             ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-24 17:04                               ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-24 18:30                                 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-24 18:41                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-26 14:00                                     ` Mark Lord
2010-04-26 14:42                                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-04-26 15:27                                         ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-26 15:51                                           ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-28  1:25                                           ` Mark Lord
2010-04-26 15:48                                         ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-24 19:06                                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-04-26 14:03                                     ` Mark Lord
2010-04-24 18:39                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-04-26 16:55                     ` Jan Kara
2010-04-26 17:46                       ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-26 17:52                         ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-26 18:14                           ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-26 18:28                             ` Jeff Moyer
2010-04-26 18:38                               ` [PATCH 2/2] Add batched discard support for ext4 - using rbtree Lukas Czerner
2010-04-26 18:42                                 ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-27 15:29                                   ` Edward Shishkin
2010-04-21 20:52                 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add batched discard support for ext4 Greg Freemyer
2010-04-19 16:20 ` Ext4: batched discard support Greg Freemyer
2010-04-19 16:30   ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-19 17:58     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-19 18:04       ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2010-04-20 20:24   ` Mark Lord
2010-04-20 20:34     ` Mark Lord

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