From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] Add a global synchronization point for pvclock
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:16:55 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BCDC567.6090708@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100420125902.GJ14158@mothafucka.localdomain>
On 04/20/2010 03:59 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
>
>> Might be due to NMIs or SMIs interrupting the rdtsc(); ktime_get()
>> operation which establishes the timeline. We could limit it by
>> having a loop doing rdtsc(); ktime_get(); rdtsc(); and checking for
>> some bound, but it isn't worthwhile (and will break nested
>> virtualization for sure). Better to have the option to calibrate
>> kvmclock just once on machines with
>> X86_FEATURE_NONSTOP_TRULY_RELIABLE _TSC_HONESTLY.
>>
> For the record, we can only even do that in those machines. If we try to update
> time structures only once in machines with the
> X86_FEATURE_TSC_SAYS_IT_IS_OKAY_BUT_IN_REALITY_IS_NOT_OKAY feature flag, guests
> won't even boot.
>
> We can detect that, and besides doing calculation only once, also export some
> bit indicating that to the guest. Humm... I'm thinking now, that because of
> migration, we should check this bit every time, because we might have changed host.
> So instead of using an expensive cpuid check, we should probably use some bit in
> the vcpu_time_info structure, and use a cpuid bit just to say it is enabled.
>
Right, we need a bit in the structure itself that says you can trust the
time not to go backwards, and a bit in cpuid that says you can trust the
bit in the structure (unless we can be sure no implementations leak
garbage into the padding field).
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-20 15:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-15 18:37 [PATCH 0/5] pv clock misc fixes Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 1/5] Add a global synchronization point for pvclock Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 2/5] change msr numbers for kvmclock Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 3/5] Try using new kvm clock msrs Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 4/5] export new cpuid KVM_CAP Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 5/5] add documentation about kvmclock Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 19:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-04-15 20:10 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-17 18:58 ` [PATCH 4/5] export new cpuid KVM_CAP Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 14:50 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-20 9:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-17 18:55 ` [PATCH 3/5] Try using new kvm clock msrs Avi Kivity
2010-04-17 18:51 ` [PATCH 2/5] change msr numbers for kvmclock Avi Kivity
2010-04-16 20:23 ` [PATCH 1/5] Add a global synchronization point for pvclock Marcelo Tosatti
2010-04-16 20:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-16 21:05 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-19 10:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 14:21 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-19 14:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 14:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 16:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-20 9:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-20 18:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-20 18:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-20 19:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-21 0:07 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-22 13:11 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-23 1:44 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-23 9:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 19:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-23 19:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 21:31 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-23 21:35 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-23 21:41 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-24 9:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-24 9:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 16:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-19 14:26 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-19 16:19 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-19 18:25 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-20 1:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-04-20 9:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-20 12:59 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-20 15:16 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-04-21 0:01 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-21 8:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-17 18:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-17 18:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 11:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 11:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 14:32 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-19 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 18:35 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-20 9:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 0:05 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-21 8:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 11:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-25 23:30 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-10-25 23:30 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-10-26 8:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-26 10:49 ` Glauber Costa
2010-10-26 17:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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