From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Doug Niehaus Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: RFC for a new Scheduling policy/class in the Linux-kernel] Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:37:03 -0500 Message-ID: <4BD5DD4F.5080906@ittc.ku.edu> References: <20100426115658.GA21346@cs.fsu.edu> <20100426182903.GA14542@8bytes.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ted Baker , raj@ece.cmu.edu, jayhawk@soe.ucsc.edu, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, raistlin@linux.it, henrik@austad.us, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, billh@gnuppy.monkey.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, fabio@gandalf.sssup.it, anderson@cs.unc.edu, tglx@linutronix.de, dhaval.giani@gmail.com, cucinotta@sssup.it, lipari@retis.sssup.it, baker.tlh@comcast.net To: Joerg Roedel Return-path: Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu ([129.237.125.220]:53304 "EHLO stephens.ittc.ku.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752785Ab0DZS7A (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:59:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20100426182903.GA14542@8bytes.org> Sender: linux-rt-users-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: One limitation of SIGSTOP is that the last time I instrumented it in detail, which admittedly was several years ago, every process you send the message to has to run long enough to receive the message. We were in the the position of sending it to fairly large groups of processes, partly through laziness in code structure, but when I looked at the time lines I was appalled to see a large number of context switches for *very* short execution intervals. All were associated with receiving the SIGSTOP and SIGCONT. I found a rather painful humor in the fact that we were running processes in order to keep them from running. So, a way to change state of a process that does not cost a context switch has some appeal. Doug On 04/26/2010 01:29 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 07:56:58AM -0400, Ted Baker wrote: > >> I have not seen any more e-mail on this. How is it going? Is there any >> chance of rolling in some corrections for the SCHED_SPORADIC treatment? In >> particular, could we have a DO_NOT_RUN priority, that is guaranteed to >> prevent a task from running at all? >> > Sorry for asking a maybe stupid question, but what is this good for and > what is the benefit over SIGSTOP? > > Joerg > >