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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] [RESEND] Make char muxer more robust wrt small	FIFOs
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 11:25:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BE04A78.6070505@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0D8C0E80-5325-4E50-A2EF-E73BB95AD8DA@suse.de>

On 05/04/2010 11:01 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
> Am 04.05.2010 um 16:34 schrieb Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>:
>
>> On 05/04/2010 09:30 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 04.05.2010 um 15:44 schrieb Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>:
>>>
>>>> On 04/20/2010 11:56 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>> Virtio-Console can only process one character at a time. Using it 
>>>>> on S390
>>>>> gave me strage "lags" where I got the character I pressed before when
>>>>> pressing one. So I typed in "abc" and only received "a", then 
>>>>> pressed "d"
>>>>> but the guest received "b" and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> While the stdio driver calls a poll function that just processes 
>>>>> on its
>>>>> queue in case virtio-console can't take multiple characters at 
>>>>> once, the
>>>>> muxer does not have such callbacks, so it can't empty its queue.
>>>>>
>>>>> To work around that limitation, I introduced a new timer that only 
>>>>> gets
>>>>> active when the guest can not receive any more characters. In that 
>>>>> case
>>>>> it polls again after a while to check if the guest is now 
>>>>> receiving input.
>>>>>
>>>>> This patch fixes input when using -nographic on s390 for me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think this is really a kvm issue.  I assume it's because s390 
>>>> idles in the kernel so you never drop to userspace to repoll the 
>>>> descriptor.
>>>
>>> There is no polling for the muxer. That's why it never knows when 
>>> virtio-console can receive again.
>>
>> Maybe I'm missing something simple, but it looks to me like the muxer 
>> is polling.  mux_chr_can_read() is going to eventually poll the muxed 
>> devices to figure this out.
>>
>> If the root of the problem is that mux_chr_can_read() isn't being 
>> invoked for a prolonged period of time, the real issue is the problem 
>> I described.
>
> The problem is that the select list of fds includes the stdio fd, so 
> that gets notified and is coupled with virtio-console, but there's 
> nothing passing that on to mux and I don't think it'd be clever to 
> expose internal data to the muxer to tell it about the backend fds.

When stdio is readable, it should invoke qemu_chr_read() with the read 
data which in turn ought to invoke mux_chr_read().

I'm not sure I understand what signalling is missing.  Jan, does the 
problem Alex describes ring a bell?  I seem to recall you saying that 
mux was still fundamentally broken but ought to work most of the time...

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-04 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-20 16:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] [RESEND] Make char muxer more robust wrt small FIFOs Alexander Graf
2010-05-04 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-04 14:30   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-04 14:34     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-04 16:01       ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-04 16:25         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-05-04 16:49           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-05  7:33             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-05-05  8:08               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-05 12:46                 ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-05 15:27                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] char: Flush read buffer in mux_chr_can_read Jan Kiszka
2010-05-11 16:22                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2010-05-11 16:29                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-11 16:35                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-12 18:51                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-14 16:00                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-14 16:17                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-15  5:31                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-15  8:36                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-15  8:37                                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-15  8:54                                     ` Jan Kiszka

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