All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: kbuild: fixing the select problem
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 16:24:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BE2D10D.4070706@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1273096160.23208.35.camel@mulgrave.site>

On 5.5.2010 23:49, James Bottomley wrote:
> [Sam: I know you don't maintain kbuild anymore, but since you have the
> most experience, if you could find time to comment, I'd be grateful]
> 
> The select problem is that the kbuild select directive will turn a
> symbol on without reference to its dependencies.  This, in turn, means
> that either selected symbols must select their dependencies, or that
> people using select have to be aware of the selected symbol's dependency
> and build those dependencies into their symbol (leading to duplication
> and the possibility of getting the dependencies out of sync).  We use
> select for the scsi transport classes, so we run into this problem in
> SCSI quite a lot.
> 
> I think the correct fix is to make a symbol that selects another symbol
> automatically inherit all of the selected symbol's dependencies.
> 
> There seems to be a fairly easy way to do this in kbuild.  Right at the
> moment, select is handled as additional symbol values as the last point
> in the symbol tree evaluation process.  Instead, what I propose doing is
> for every select symbol, we add an extra unconditional default for the
> selected symbol of the selecting symbol's current value (this breaks a
> possible dependency cycle) and add to the dependencies of the selecting
> symbol, the symbol it's currently selecting.

Nice trick :-).


> There's one wrinkle to all of this in that the current parser for
> default values stops when it finds the first valid (i.e. whose if clause
> evaluates to true) default.  To make the above scheme work, I need to
> modify the default parser so it takes the highest tristate of all the
> valid defaults (and bumps m to y for bool).

We should check if some Kconfig file doesn't rely on this "first hit"
behavior and fix it to explicitly list the condition for a given
default. Another option would be to add
default SYM1 || SYM2
to a symbol selected by SYM1 and SYM2.


> Does this look acceptable to people?  I think it should give the desired
> result and has the added benefit that we can then strip the extra select
> overlay out of the kbuild system (making the parser slightly simpler).
> 
> If this looks like a good idea to people, I think I can code up a quick
> patch.

Other than the above, right now I don't see any issues with such approach.

On a related note, I see Vegard's GSoC project to use a sat solver for
kconfig got accepted [1]. Vegard, how is the project progressing?

[1]
http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/student_project/show/google/gsoc2010/psu_home/t127230762803

Michal

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-06 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-05 21:49 kbuild: fixing the select problem James Bottomley
2010-05-06  6:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06  6:47   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 13:17   ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 13:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 16:47     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-05-06 17:25       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 17:25         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 14:24 ` Michal Marek [this message]
2010-05-06 14:52   ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 20:48     ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 20:59       ` Randy Dunlap
2010-05-06 21:05         ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 16:52   ` Vegard Nossum
2010-05-07 11:31 ` Catalin Marinas

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4BE2D10D.4070706@suse.cz \
    --to=mmarek@suse.cz \
    --cc=James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com \
    --cc=linux-arch@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=randy.dunlap@oracle.com \
    --cc=sam@ravnborg.org \
    --cc=vegard.nossum@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.