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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Alek Du <alek.du@intel.com>, Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>
Subject: Re: RFD: Should we remove the HLT check?  (was Re: [PATCH 1/8] x86: avoid check hlt if no timer interrupts)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 13:36:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BE479EA.3080005@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BE4791B.1060304@linux.intel.com>

On 05/07/2010 01:33 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On 5/7/2010 13:32, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>
>> I really wish I knew the exact systems affected by the HLT bug.  If I
>> remember correctly, it was some 386 systems -- or possibly 486 systems
>> as well -- a very long time ago.  This test just provides a diagnosis if
>> the system really is bad (it hangs with an obvious message) at the cost
>> of some 40 ms to the system boot time.  I suspect C1 (HLT) being broken
>> is not anywhere close to the predominant power management problem in the
>> current day, and as such I'm wondering if this particular test hasn't
>> outlived its usefulness.
>>
>> Thoughts?
> 
> we could at least hide it behind the "don't run on pentium or newer" config options..

I'd be cool skipping it for family 5 or newer.  I'm just wondering if we
should kill it completely -- IIRC it was only a handful of 386/486
systems which had problems, usually due to marginal power supplies which
couldn't handle the noise of a variable load (DOS not having any power
management would run at a reliable 100% load) -- that's not exactly the
type of systems which would have survived to modern day.

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-07 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-07 17:41 [PATCH 0/8] Moorestown changes in arch/x86 for 35 merge window Jacob Pan
2010-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 1/8] x86: avoid check hlt if no timer interrupts Jacob Pan
2010-05-07 20:32   ` RFD: Should we remove the HLT check? (was Re: [PATCH 1/8] x86: avoid check hlt if no timer interrupts) H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-07 20:33     ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-07 20:36       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-05-07 22:24         ` Alan Cox
2010-05-07 22:27           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-07 22:46             ` Alan Cox
2010-05-07 22:35           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-07 20:54       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 21:04         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-07 22:07           ` jacob pan
2010-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 2/8] x86/mrst/pci: return 0 for non-present pci bars Jacob Pan
2010-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 3/8] x86/apic: allow use of lapic timer early calibration result Jacob Pan
2010-05-11 13:46   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-11 19:42     ` Pan, Jacob jun
2010-05-11 19:50       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-11 20:46         ` Pan, Jacob jun
2010-05-11 20:51           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 4/8] x86/mrst: change clock selection logic to support medfield Jacob Pan
2010-05-11 14:36   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-11 15:30     ` Alan Cox
2010-05-11 15:50       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-11 16:03         ` Alan Cox
2010-05-13 22:16     ` Pan, Jacob jun
2010-05-17  2:14     ` Du, Alek
2010-05-17  2:27     ` Du, Alek
2010-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 5/8] x86/apbt: support more timer configurations on mrst Jacob Pan
2010-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 6/8] x86/platform: add a wallclock_init func to x86_platforms ops Jacob Pan
2010-05-11 14:42   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 7/8] x86/mrst: add vrtc driver which serves as a wall clock device Jacob Pan
2010-05-07 18:51   ` Joe Perches
2010-05-07 19:02     ` Alan Cox
2010-05-07 19:06       ` Joe Perches
2010-05-07 19:56         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-10  9:17           ` Feng Tang
2010-05-10 18:22             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-11  2:30               ` Feng Tang
2010-05-11 14:57   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-12  2:34     ` Feng Tang
2010-05-17  9:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-18  6:27         ` Feng Tang
2010-05-18  7:38           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-18 20:43         ` john stultz
2010-05-18 21:02           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-21  2:15         ` [PATCH 1/3] timekeeping: moving xtime's init to a later time Feng Tang
2010-05-21  2:16         ` [PATCH 2/3] x86: unify current 3 similar ways of saving IRQ info Feng Tang
2010-05-21  2:19         ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/mrst: add vrtc driver which serves as a wall clock device Feng Tang
2010-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 8/8] x86/mrst: Add nop functions to x86_init mpparse functions Jacob Pan

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