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From: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>
To: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	Mike Habeck <habeck@sgi.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yinghai <yinghai.lu@oracle.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Myron Stowe <myron.stowe@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/1] x86 pci: Add option to not assign BAR's if not already assigned
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:59:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BEDD5BF.5030005@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100514154706.4f36f4ed@virtuousgeek.org>



Jesse Barnes wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:34:01 -0700
> Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Jesse Barnes wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 14:02:30 -0600
>>> Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> wrote:
>>>>>> This issue is not specific to x86, so I don't really like having
>>>>>> the implementation be x86-specific.
>>>>> I agree this isn't a x86 specific issue but given the 'norom'
>>>>> cmdline option is basically doing the same thing (but for pci
>>>>> Expansion ROM BARs) this code was modeled after it.
>>>> IMHO, we should fix both.
>>> Yeah, that would be good.  Mike, have you looked at this at all?
>>>
>>> Also, to clarify, this isn't affecting users today, right?  Or do you
>>> need all this I/O space for multiple IOHs and the drivers that bind to
>>> them in current UV systems?
>> We have customers that want to install more than 16 PCI-e cards right
>> now.  Our window of opportunity closes very soon (days), so either this
>> patch makes it in as is (or something close), or we wait for another
>> release cycle.  UV shipments start this month.
>>
>> [I wouldn't mind working on an improvement for later.]
> 
> Wow and they're using cards that want to use I/O space?  Funky.  It's
> too late to get this into 2.6.34, but that can't be what you were
> expecting... I don't see a problem with getting something like this in
> for 2.6.35.

2.6.35 would be fine.  It's the acceptance that's the key.

And yes, we're using standard cards like everyone else... ;-)

[The message is "UV" is just a really, really big PC. ;-)]

I would appreciate however, some more detail on what's the goal of the
updates to "fix both".  Thanks!

> 
>>> Fundamentally, until we have real dynamic PCI resource management (i.e.
>>> driver hooks for handling relocation, lazy allocation of resources at
>>> driver bind time, etc.) we're going to continue to need hacks like
>>> this.  However, we could make them slightly more automated by making
>>> "nobar" and "norom" the default on systems that typically need them,
>>> maybe with a DMI table.
>> It seems that BIOS changes are much more difficult.  The real solution
>> to this problem is for Card Vendors to not request I/O Bars if they
>> won't be using them.  But that's the hardest option of all to accomplish.
> 
> Right.
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-14 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-12 18:14 [Patch 1/1] x86 pci: Add option to not assign BAR's if not already assigned Mike Travis
2010-05-13 18:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 19:08   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 19:12   ` Mike Travis
2010-05-13 19:13     ` Mike Travis
2010-05-13 19:54     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 20:27       ` Mike Habeck
2010-05-13 19:38   ` Mike Habeck
2010-05-13 20:02     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 20:09       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 22:25       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 22:34         ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 22:35           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 22:40             ` Mike Travis
2010-05-15  2:25               ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 22:47           ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 22:59             ` Mike Travis [this message]
2010-05-14 23:06               ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:23                 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 23:33                   ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:40                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-15  0:02                       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:20             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 23:28               ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:32                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 23:34                   ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:39                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-15  0:00                       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-15  0:14                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 20:36     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-05-13 20:34       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 18:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-28 16:53 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-28 17:00   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-28 17:10     ` Mike Travis
2010-05-28 19:28       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-28 20:04       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-31 11:12         ` Mike Travis
2010-05-31 16:36           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-01 22:49           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-06-02  7:31             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-02 15:45               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-06-02 15:47                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-02 15:53                   ` Jesse Barnes
2010-06-09  0:53                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-09  1:26                       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-06-09 14:23                         ` Mike Habeck
2010-06-02 15:53             ` Mike Habeck
2010-06-02 16:40               ` Bjorn Helgaas

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