From: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
To: Wolfgang Mauerer <wolfgang.mauerer@domain.hid>
Cc: "Kiszka, Jan" <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>,
Andreas Glatz <AndreasGlatz@domain.hid>,
"xenomai@xenomai.org" <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] Question about getting system time
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 23:19:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF3045E.5080707@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BF2F73C.7070605@domain.hid>
Wolfgang Mauerer wrote:
> Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>> Wolfgang Mauerer wrote:
>>>> On the one hand you make complicated code (which will be costly on low
>>>> end hardware) to avoid shutting interrupts around a few assignments, but
>>>> on the other hand you leave an architecture specific function pointer
>>>> call where we want a fast behaviour on average (remember, we do all this
>>>> to avoid a system call, which is only a few hundreds nanoseconds on your
>>>> big iron x86), and where we have a generic fast replacement. Sometimes,
>>>> I do not understand your logic.
>>> But using the same argument, you could get rid of Linux vsyscall based
>>> gettimeofday()...
>> I do not see your point, the Linux code does not go a long way to make
>> lockless code, it simply turns off interrupts around the gtod data
>> update, which is really reasonable given the size of the masking
>> section. The reading is lockless, the writing is not.
>>
> I was referring to the argument that system calls are so fast that
> replacing gtod with a syscall-less version that uses function
> pointer dereferencing instead does not make much of a difference.
That is not what I said. I compared the weight of a function pointer
call with the one of four asignments with irqs off. And yes syscalls are
fast on x86, do the measurements yourself, you may be surprised.
>
> Be it as it may, I need to check how far our budget can cover
> the (much more comprehensive) modifications required for the
> solution suggested by you. Let's see.
I do not think there is that much work involved. The way I see it, we
would need to replace our tsc reading function with one returning
"ntp-corrected" tsc (that is, essentially a subset of the gettimeofday
function you implemented, without conversion to ns and to CLOCK_REALTIME).
Changes in this monotonic clock would trigger a recomputation of the
next timer event date.
Changes in monotonic to real-time conversion would trigger a call to
xnpod_set_time.
--
Gilles.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-18 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-13 22:14 [Xenomai-help] Question about getting system time Abhijit Majumdar
2010-05-14 5:44 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-14 10:34 ` Andreas Glatz
2010-05-14 10:42 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-17 16:27 ` Steve Deiters
2010-05-17 16:52 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-17 17:05 ` Steve Deiters
2010-05-17 17:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-17 18:02 ` Josh Karch
2010-05-17 18:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-17 18:51 ` Thomas Lockhart
2010-05-17 22:48 ` Steve Deiters
2010-05-17 23:50 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-17 23:53 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-18 0:23 ` Steve Deiters
2010-05-18 7:04 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-18 7:59 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-18 8:38 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2010-05-18 10:11 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-18 12:11 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2010-05-18 12:41 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-18 14:58 ` [Xenomai-core] " Wolfgang Mauerer
2010-05-18 15:07 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-18 18:41 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-18 20:23 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2010-05-18 21:19 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix [this message]
2010-05-18 22:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-18 22:24 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-18 23:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-19 5:49 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-19 7:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-21 8:55 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-05-27 15:35 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2010-05-19 19:16 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2010-05-19 20:55 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
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