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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@nokia.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, "Sebastian H." <vand2@gmx.de>,
	James Courtier-Dutton <james.dutton@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Mixer volume/decibel mapping
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:56:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF658C6.4030404@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201005210951.36495.peter.ujfalusi@nokia.com>

Peter Ujfalusi wrote:
> On Friday 21 May 2010 09:35:31 ext Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> > > I believe it could be extended to support a continuous range.
> > > For example, some hardware uses a 32bit value to control the gain.
> > > The mix operation is simply "the_sample" * "the_control_value".
> > > So in this case the hardware has a linear control that can be
> > > considered continuous for our purposes.
> > 
> > Such controls already exist:
> > 
> > $ grep -rl DB_LINEAR sound/
> > ...
> 
> The DB_SCALE also provides linear mapping:
> For example, if the HW volume control has a range 0 .. 100
> In HW these means:
> 0 == -10dB, 1 == -9.8dB, 2 == -9.6dB .. 99 = 9.8dB, 100 = 10dB
> So it is linear.

This is not what is meant by "linear", because dB values are not linear.

DB_LINEAR means that the mixer control value is a multiplier for the
PCM sample value, as James wrote.  A DB_LINEAR mapping has
0 == -infinity dB, full scale == 0 dB, and the mapping between mixer
control values and corresponding dB values it _not_ linear.

TLV_DB_LINEAR_ITEM is a quite misleading name, but it actually means
"dB mapping for a mixer control whose value has a linear effect on the
sound output", _not_ a linear value <-> dB mapping.


Regards,
Clemens

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-21  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-19 16:34 Mixer volume/decibel mapping Sebastian H.
2010-05-20  7:34 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-20  8:01 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-05-20  8:53   ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-20  9:41     ` Sebastian H.
2010-05-20 16:13       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-05-21  0:35         ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-21  1:30         ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-21  8:18           ` Sebastian H.
2010-06-07  3:37             ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-07  9:19               ` Sebastian H.
2010-06-08  1:03                 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-08  6:02                   ` Sebastian Holtermann
2010-06-08 15:31                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-09 10:26                       ` Sebastian H.
2010-06-08  6:08                   ` Sebastian H.
2010-06-09  5:39                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-09  7:34                       ` Sebastian H.
2010-06-10  0:08                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-09  5:55                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-08  2:23                 ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-21  6:35         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-21  6:51           ` Peter Ujfalusi
2010-05-21  9:56             ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]
2010-05-24  2:52               ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-25  8:38                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-25  8:43                   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-05-25  8:49                     ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-25 23:24                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-27 13:32                       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-05-29  3:54                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-29  1:57                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-29 18:46                       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-04 23:46                   ` Raymond Yau
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTik7mD1DAVWkOwM7sNu0EfgGApvzX9WRXWBOO4PI@mail.gmail.com>
2010-05-25  8:45                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-25 13:51                   ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-25 14:36                     ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-25 23:00                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-27  0:20                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-28 13:04                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-28 14:10                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-29  1:31                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-21 13:16           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-05-25  8:21             ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-06-09  6:19             ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-22  9:24           ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-20  9:20   ` Sebastian H.

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