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From: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arch/tile: new multi-core architecture for Linux
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 09:54:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BFBD68C.9060405@tilera.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201005242053.25594.arnd@arndb.de>

On 5/24/2010 2:53 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> Note that the asm-generic version defines 244 numbers, while you have
> a total of 313 numbers. You obviously need the extra arch specific
> syscalls (e.g cmpxchg), so we need to reserve some space for those
> in the generic header. All the other ones that are in your version but
> not in the generic version are very likely not needed (unless I made
> a mistake in the generic code).
>   

I looked at the diff of the set of syscalls you provide and the ones
we've been using.

Specific questions:

- How do you propose representing the architecture-specific syscalls? 
We have three "very special" syscalls that are negative numbers, which I
won't worry about, since they'll be out of the normal numbering
sequence.  But we also have a few others (cmpxchg_baddr, raise_fpe,
flush_cache) that we'll need a numbering location for.  I see that you
already have an empty block from 244 (today) to 1023; perhaps
architectures should just use 1023 on down?  I'll do this for now.

- You renamed __NR__llseek to __NR_llseek, which of course seems pretty
reasonable, but libc expects to see the former (both glibc and uclibc). 
Is it worth requiring non-standard libc code?  I may just add
__NR__llseek as an alias in my unistd.h for now.

- Are you planning to keep all the ifdef'ed syscalls going forward? 
Because honestly, I'd rather just enable __ARCH_WANT_SYSCALL_NO_AT,
etc., and use the kernel implementations, since otherwise I'll have to
go into both uclibc and glibc and add a bunch of extra Tilera-specific
code and then try to push that up to their community, when really I just
want to have the Tilera architecture userspace support be as generic as
possible.

The result seems positive overall; I'm certainly happy to dump, e.g.,
"nice" and "stime", since they have obvious userspace wrappers (and in
fact libc is already geared up to use them if available).  And a few
other syscalls in the Tile list aren't even implemented but were just
brought over from x86 "in case", like afs_syscall, putpmsg, and getpmsg,
so I'm happy to abandon them as well.  And "sysfs" is commented out of
uclibc, and not present in glibc, so no big loss there.  Other than that
I think the set of supported syscalls will only change by a couple --
and more importantly, from my point of view, Tilera gets to stay
automatically synced to any new syscalls added to Linux going forward. 
So this is good.

I assume that folks are committing to not changing any of the existing
numbers, ifdefs, etc. in asm-generic/unistd.h; if we're the only
architecture using it, no one might notice until we did. :-)

-- 
Chris Metcalf, Tilera Corp.
http://www.tilera.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-25 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-20  5:43 [PATCH] arch/tile: new multi-core architecture for Linux Chris Metcalf
2010-05-20  8:04 ` Barry Song
2010-05-20 14:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-20 19:10   ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-21  4:52     ` Barry Song
2010-05-21 15:13       ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-20 19:12   ` [PATCH] generic: make lowmem_page_address() use PFN_PHYS() for improved portability Chris Metcalf
2010-05-22  4:05 ` [PATCH] arch/tile: new multi-core architecture for Linux Chris Metcalf
2010-05-23 22:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-24 15:29     ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-24 18:53       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-24 21:29         ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-25 13:54         ` Chris Metcalf [this message]
2010-05-25 15:03           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-25 15:13             ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-25 15:30               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-26  2:44             ` liqin.chen
2010-05-26  2:44               ` liqin.chen
2010-05-26 13:45               ` Chris Metcalf
     [not found]           ` <4BFBE005.2070500@tilera.com>
     [not found]             ` <201005251721.23782.arnd@arndb.de>
2010-05-26 23:05               ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-26  5:02       ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-25 21:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-27  0:58       ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-27  8:41         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-27 13:30           ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-27 13:41             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-27 13:48               ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-27 14:11             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-27 14:35               ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-27 15:02                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-27 15:04                   ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-27 15:20                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-27 14:52               ` Marc Gauthier
2010-05-28 17:58                 ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-27 15:03               ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-27 20:34           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-27 20:53             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-28 16:45       ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-28 17:16         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-28 17:28           ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-16 18:23       ` [PATCH] arch/tile: support signal "exception-trace" hook Chris Metcalf
2011-05-18 18:14         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-17 20:26       ` [PATCH] arch/tile: add /proc/tile, /proc/sys/tile, and a sysfs cpu attribute Chris Metcalf
2011-05-19 13:41         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-19 15:12           ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-19 15:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-20 14:26               ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-20 14:37                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-20 15:00                   ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-20 15:13                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-20 19:59                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-20 19:59                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-25 19:09                         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-25 19:17                         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-25 19:18                         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-25 19:18                         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-25 20:20                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-25 20:31                             ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-25 20:34                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-25 20:34                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-25 20:31                             ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-25 20:20                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-20 15:13                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-20 15:00                   ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-20 14:37                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-20 14:26               ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-24 15:38               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-24 15:38               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-19 15:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-26 16:40         ` [PATCH v2] arch/tile: more /proc and /sys file support Chris Metcalf
2011-05-26 16:40         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-05-27 14:23           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-27 14:23           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-24 20:22 ` [PATCH] arch/tile: new multi-core architecture for Linux Sam Ravnborg
2010-05-24 21:30   ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-25  5:02     ` Sam Ravnborg
2010-05-25 20:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-26  1:57   ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-26 16:22   ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-26 17:09     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-29  3:01 ` [PATCH 1/8] Fix up the "generic" unistd.h ABI to be more useful Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:01 ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:09 ` [PATCH 2/8] arch/tile: infrastructure and configuration-related files Chris Metcalf
2010-05-31  7:47   ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-03 17:54     ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:09 ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:10 ` [PATCH 3/8] arch/tile: header files for the Tile architecture Chris Metcalf
2010-05-31  2:58   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-06-03 21:32   ` [PATCH] arch/tile: respond to reviews of the second code submission Chris Metcalf
2010-06-04  0:50     ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-04  1:31     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-06-07  5:25       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-29  3:10 ` [PATCH 4/8] arch/tile: core kernel/ code Chris Metcalf
2010-05-31  2:58   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-29  3:11 ` [PATCH 5/8] arch/tile: the kernel/tile-desc_32.c file Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:13 ` [PATCH 6/8] arch/tile: the mm/ directory Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:16 ` [PATCH 7/8] arch/tile: lib/ directory Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:16 ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:17 ` [PATCH 8/8] arch/tile: hypervisor console driver Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:17 ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:20 ` [PATCH 0/8] revised patch for arch/tile/ support Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29 11:29   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-06-03 20:40     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-06-03 21:48       ` Chris Metcalf
2010-06-04 21:32       ` Chris Metcalf
2010-06-05 12:56         ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-06-05 13:30           ` Chris Metcalf
2010-06-05 14:10             ` Stephen Rothwell
     [not found] ` <dVZMmBu$KHA.5388@exchange1.tad.internal.tilera.com>
2010-05-29  3:20   ` Chris Metcalf
2010-05-29  3:20 ` Chris Metcalf

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