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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
To: Mathieu Peresse
	<mathieu.peresse-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: VRF-like use of Network Namespaces
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:52:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C125BA4.4020300@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilUNrMAeeUjHsXkTwd7Ysx0o9mdl8UaSUvG6wvf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 06/11/2010 04:47 PM, Mathieu Peresse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [this is related to the use of Eric Biederman's new set of patches for named
> netns / netns switching]
>
> ok so I successfully modified /sbin/ip. I can now:
> - add/del a new netns by name: "ip netns {addns,delns} ns_name"
> ->  The namespace files are mounted on /var/run/netns/ns_name (so you have to
> mkdir /var/run/netns/ for this to work).
>    

IMHO, the ip command is not suitable for this, it does not write 
anything to the fs.
You should write you own command, which can be a perl script using the 
'unshare' command (util-linux package on my distro).

vrf create <name>
vrf delete <name>
vrf attach <name>
vrf list

vrf create will bind mount the ns at the place you decided in the script 
(eg. a tmpfs in order to keep the directory consistent across (unclean) 
reboots).

> - list netns: "ip netns show"
> - use /sbin/ip in any named netns: "ip -netns ns_name link show"
>
> (rough patch against current git tree attached)
>
> I want now to move devices across namespaces using their filesystem names
> (instead of using PIDs...). I'm not sure I can do it in userspace with the
> current code yet, can I ?
>    
No, you can do that only with pids, but why don't you move the devices 
at the create time ?
You have all the latitude to do that, no ?

> I saw there was a rtnetlink attribute to set the netns of a device but it
> uses the PID of a namespace owner to do so... within 'ip' i can refer to
> only one namespace (i.e. the one that 'ip' task_struct->ns_proxy currently
> points to), so I won't be able to move an interface from outside my
> namespace to my namespace...
> I hope my explanation is clear and that this will get some interest... :)
>    

Your 'create' command can open a fd to its current  netns, unshare a new 
namespace, bind mount it, and then return to the previously saved netns.

> BTW is this the right ML to post this on ?
>    

Well, this is something related to a subsystem of the containers, so it 
has some interest but I would suggest to send to the netdev@ mailing 
list (netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org), maybe cc'ing this mailing list.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-11 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-08 15:23 VRF-like use of Network Namespaces Mathieu Peresse
     [not found] ` <AANLkTimA_0aZwZM1uZ-GH3OxfEZvegoitaaKTYPLvW5F-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-08 15:40   ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]     ` <4C0E6466.3030100-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-08 17:12       ` Mathieu Peresse
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTik77W7F7BV7qp9ZQlM3yJCKNydHAMN47FaLTr7Z-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-08 21:06           ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]             ` <4C0EB0C5.8070904-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-08 21:48               ` Mathieu Peresse
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTinmsRRKdWaf8QONeRRJSQRXPhaUtY1cFv_JGcy8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 14:47                   ` Mathieu Peresse
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTilUNrMAeeUjHsXkTwd7Ysx0o9mdl8UaSUvG6wvf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 14:59                       ` Dan Smith
2010-06-11 15:52                       ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <4C125BA4.4020300-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-13  9:59                           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <m11vcbl0d5.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-13 13:35                               ` Mathieu Peresse
2010-06-13 20:30                               ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-06-13  9:43                       ` Eric W. Biederman

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