From: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
To: "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
oerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>,
zhiteng.huang@intel.com, tim.c.chen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/5] ara virt interface of perf to support kvm guest os statistics collection in guest os
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:14:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C2062D8.20609@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1277171344.2096.567.camel@ymzhang.sh.intel.com>
On 06/22/10 03:49, Zhang, Yanmin wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 14:45 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> Since the guest can use NMI to read the
>> counter, it should have the highest possible priority, and thus it
>> shouldn't see any overflow unless it configured the threshold really low.
>>
>> If we drop overflow, we can use the RDPMC instruction instead of
>> KVM_PERF_OP_READ. This allows the guest to allow userspace to read a
>> counter, or prevent userspace from reading the counter, by setting cr4.pce.
> 1) para virt perf interface is to hide PMU hardware in host os. Guest os shouldn't
> access PMU hardware directly. We could expose PMU hardware to guest os directly, but
> that would be another guest os PMU support method. It shouldn't be a part of para virt
> interface.
> 2) Consider below scenario: PMU counter overflows and NMI causes guest os vmexit to
> host kernel. Host kernel schedules the vcpu thread to another physical cpu before
> vmenter the guest os again. So later on, guest os just RDPMC the counter on another
> cpu.
>
> So I think above discussion is around how to expose PMU hardware to guest os. I will
> also check this method after the para virt interface is done.
You should be able to expose the counters as read-only to the guest. KVM
allows you to specify whether or not a guest has read, write or
read/write access. If you allowed read access of the counters that would
safe a fair bit of hyper calls.
Question is if it is safe to drop overflow support?
Cheers,
Jes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-22 7:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-21 9:31 [PATCH V2 1/5] ara virt interface of perf to support kvm guest os statistics collection in guest os Zhang, Yanmin
2010-06-21 11:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-22 1:49 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-06-22 7:14 ` Jes Sorensen [this message]
2010-06-22 7:47 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-06-22 7:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22 8:00 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-22 9:29 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-06-22 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22 9:39 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-22 9:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22 9:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-22 10:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22 10:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-22 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22 11:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-22 7:58 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-23 1:13 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-06-23 8:15 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-22 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
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