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From: Steve Wise <swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
To: "Tung,
	Chien Tin"
	<chien.tin.tung-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Bernard Metzler <BMT-OA+xvbQnYDHMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>,
	Roland Dreier <rdreier-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Waskiewicz Jr,
	Peter P"
	<peter.p.waskiewicz.jr-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] RDMA/CMA: fix iWARP adapter TCP port space usage
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:03:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C339A13.3030802@opengridcomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E904928D9C9B-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

I haven't thought through all the details, but in principal this should 
work.  But this isn't just and iWARP issue.  Currently all RDMA-CM users 
share the same port space.   I think we need to maintain this, so a 
transport-independent RDMA app can run over both IB and IW.  This goes 
for server side wrt listen/accept as well.

Steve.


Tung, Chien Tin wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Do you see any issues with Bernard's proposal?  Is this something we can agree on?
>
> Chien
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org [mailto:linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Tung,
>> Chien Tin
>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:15 PM
>> To: Bernard Metzler; Roland Dreier
>> Cc: Jason Gunthorpe; linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Waskiewicz Jr,
>> Peter P; Steve Wise
>> Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] RDMA/CMA: fix iWARP adapter TCP port space usage
>>
>>     
>>> To my understanding, our discussion touches two topics. One is
>>> to solve the TCP port space issue, the other is more general, its about
>>> proper integration of offloaded TCP within Linux. So, the second
>>> topic is a generalization of the first.
>>>
>>> Regarding the first topic, what I was about to propose is that the
>>> iWARP kernel driver (software iWARP or RNIC) itself should take care of
>>> port space allocations. Port space maintenance functionality should
>>> be minimized at iWARP CM level. It looks straightforward to me if
>>> during the rdma_connect() call the driver picks a free port using
>>> a socket/bind sequence for its local interface. The same would be possible
>>> for
>>> the passive connection setup, which always involves an rdma_bind_addr()
>>> - we would have to pass the rdma_bind_addr() call down to the driver
>>> and EADDRINUSE would be a reasonable return value.
>>> Here things are getting a little more complicated, if it comes to
>>> INADDR_ANY and port 0 bindings. In private email, Bob Sharp already
>>> suggested it -  the iWARP CM would have to pick a port and
>>> try it on all interfaces....maybe by starting with port 0 binding
>>> on one interface and trying to extend with the returned port on
>>> all remaining interfaces. That introduces an unbind() call if things
>>> fail, too. In any case, the rdma_bind_addr() call would create additional
>>> state
>>> at driver level.
>>>       
>> I am okay with adding rdma_bind_addr and rdma_unbind_addr calls.  I won't
>> speak for Sean and the work that needs to go into the CM.  But this will allow
>> all known iWARP implementations to work together.
>>
>>     
>>> For softiwarp, during bind() or connect(), a TCP socket would be created
>>> and bound, for an RNIC driver (currently) the same would happen. While with
>>> softiwarp this socket would be used for communication later, the RNIC
>>> driver
>>> would simply have to keep it around until the connection endpoint gets
>>> destroyed
>>> or the port gets unbound.
>>>       
>> We want to be careful and make sure there is only one iWARP provider per IP address.
>> If softiWARP binds and surfaces another verbs interface on an existing one,
>> this scheme will not work.
>>
>> Chien
>>
>>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-06 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-11 12:47 [PATCH v2] RDMA/CMA: fix iWARP adapter TCP port space usage Chien Tung
2010-06-11 16:03 ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]   ` <adapqzxy2sb.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 19:49     ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]       ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E904924CCE42-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 21:13         ` Steve Wise
     [not found]           ` <4C12A6E8.5040400-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 22:08             ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]               ` <adamxv1w7cb.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 22:41                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                   ` <20100611224126.GA4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 22:47                     ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                       ` <CF9C39F99A89134C9CF9C4CCB68B8DDF255F6BB9B7-osO9UTpF0USkrb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 22:55                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2010-06-11 23:40                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                       ` <4C12C971.4000909-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  0:04                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                           ` <20100612000431.GC4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  1:18                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                               ` <4C12E073.2040008-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  1:56                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                   ` <20100612015652.GA7648-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  2:10                                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                       ` <4C12EC89.1030305-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  4:34                                         ` Peter P Waskiewicz Jr
     [not found]                                           ` <Pine.WNT.4.64.1006112117160.6192-sfjRBClDQW9noNDWh8xLylnYeNYlB/vhral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  4:46                                             ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                               ` <adaeigcx3hw.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  6:30                                                 ` Pradeep Satyanarayana
2010-06-12 15:17                                                 ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                   ` <4C13A526.3040500-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-17 14:14                                                     ` Bernard Metzler
     [not found]                                                       ` <OF026C9B22.332F6F2C-ONC1257745.00429E02-C1257745.004E411D-Xeyd2O9EBijQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-17 14:56                                                         ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                           ` <4C1A378B.9030509-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-17 16:13                                                             ` Bernard Metzler
2010-06-23 17:30                                                         ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                           ` <ada8w65veq4.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 17:37                                                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                               ` <4C224652.2060601-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:33                                                                 ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                   ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E90492696E76-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:48                                                                     ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 18:20                                                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                               ` <4C225078.6050001-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:28                                                                 ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                   ` <adar5jxtxho.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:46                                                                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                       ` <4C225697.6060702-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:45                                                                         ` Roland Dreier
2010-06-23 19:29                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20100623192909.GT4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 19:42                                                                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                               ` <4C2263B3.9010608-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 19:45                                                                                 ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <4C226441.5000904-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 19:49                                                                                     ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 19:52                                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20100623195210.GU4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:01                                                                                     ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <adawrtpsem5.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:13                                                                                         ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 20:11                                                                                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <4C226A6F.4000801-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:09                                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <20100623200937.GV4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:19                                                                                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                                               ` <4C226C53.7080802-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:26                                                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <20100623202607.GW4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:39                                                                                                     ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 20:29                                                                                                 ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 19:17                                                                     ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                       ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E90492696EF7-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 19:50                                                                         ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                           ` <ada6319ttnj.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:51                                                                             ` Tung, Chien Tin
2010-06-25 16:46                                                                             ` Bernard Metzler
     [not found]                                                                               ` <OFE69DF7DF.E7AB1B1F-ONC125774D.0035CCED-C125774D.005C2F46-Xeyd2O9EBijQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-25 20:14                                                                                 ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E904926FF2A4-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 20:52                                                                                     ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E904928D9C9B-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 21:03                                                                                         ` Steve Wise [this message]
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <4C339A13.3030802-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 15:37                                                                                             ` Bernard Metzler
     [not found]                                                                                               ` <OF9B577A15.49E0F3EB-ONC1257759.005129F2-C1257759.0055D7D7-Xeyd2O9EBijQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 16:26                                                                                                 ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <4C34AAA6.2080909-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 18:10                                                                                                     ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                                                       ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E904928DA373-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 18:12                                                                                                         ` Steve Wise
2010-06-12  5:22                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                               ` <20100612052242.GA17793-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12 14:51                                                 ` Tung, Chien Tin
2010-06-11 23:45                 ` Steve Wise
2010-06-11 19:40 ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTinDsfGtQZUc6kfW2-pWK51V2SK3CLjE-8jDjfzN-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 19:52     ` Tung, Chien Tin

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