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From: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
To: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
Cc: xenomai-help <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-help] native: A 32k stack is not always a 'reasonable' size
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:33:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C35FDC7.8000908@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278601290.1810.150.camel@domain.hid>

Philippe Gerum wrote:
> I mean that glibc does not pre-allocate pieces of anon memory to honor
> requests for stack chunks, it gets them on the fly from an internal
> cache if one matches, or mmaps its. Besides, the cache itself is only
> fed with recycled stacks from terminated threads it seems, so we can't
> predict whether all stacks there would be contiguous.
> 
> For instance, I'm assuming that tweaking your code like below would
> likely prevent the stack segments from being contiguous:
> 
>         pthread_create(&ida, NULL, thread, NULL);
>       +	mmap(NULL, 8*1024*1024, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE | MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0);
> 	pthread_create(&idb, NULL, thread, NULL);
>         pthread_join(ida, NULL);
> 
> If so, it is indeed likely that segments would be contiguous if threads
> are started the way you did; on the other hand, it is possible that a
> more complex application does not suffer this. Granted, this does not
> help us that much anyway.
> 
> My point is that nothing guarantees us either contiguous or sparse stack
> address ranges, so we probably should not rely on those assumptions.

So the worst case, in case of massive stack overflow, or in a system
without MMU is silent corruption of unrelated data.

I am not sure of what we can do about that. Not sure
-fstack-protector/-fstack-check is a solution.

-- 
					    Gilles.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-08 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-06 19:25 [Xenomai-help] native: A 32k stack is not always a 'reasonable' size Peter Soetens
2010-07-07  9:06 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-07 20:57   ` Peter Soetens
2010-07-07 21:19     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-07 22:31       ` Peter Soetens
2010-07-07 23:08         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-08  8:37           ` Philippe Gerum
2010-07-08  8:58             ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-08  9:31               ` Philippe Gerum
2010-07-08  9:35                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-08  9:58                   ` Philippe Gerum
2010-07-08 10:04                     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-08 10:09                       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-08 11:52                     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-08  9:50               ` Philippe Gerum
2010-07-08  9:55                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-08 10:19                   ` Philippe Gerum
2010-07-08 11:47                     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-07-08 15:01                       ` Philippe Gerum
2010-07-08 16:33                         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix [this message]
2010-07-11 13:15 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix

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