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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jeff@garzik.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	cl@linux-foundation.org, oleg@redhat.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
	dwalker@codeaurora.org, stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de,
	florian@mickler.org, andi@firstfloor.org, mst@redhat.com,
	randy.dunlap@oracle.com, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] workqueue: implement and use WQ_UNBOUND
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:59:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C470B46.4040604@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21485.1279717725@redhat.com>

Hello,

On 07/21/2010 03:08 PM, David Howells wrote:
> Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
>> As all unbound works are served by the same gcwq, non reentrancy is
>> automatically guaranteed.
> 
> That doesn't actually explain _how_ it's non-reentrant.  The gcwq includes a
> collection of threads that can execute from it, right?  If so, what mechanism
> prevents two threads from executing the same work item, if that work item
> isn't bound to a CPU?  I've been trying to figure this out from the code, but
> I don't see it offhand.

Sharing the same gcwq is why workqueues bound to one CPU have
non-reentrancy, so they're using the same mechanism.  If it doesn't
work for unbound workqueues, the normal ones are broken too.  Each
gcwq keeps track of currently running works in a hash table and looks
whether the work in question is already executing before starting
executing it.  It's a bit complex but as a work_struct may be freed
once execution starts, the status needs to be tracked outside.

>>> Btw, how does this fare in an RT system, where work items bound to a CPU
>>> can't get executed because their CPU is busy with an RT thread, even
>>> though there are other, idle CPUs?
>>
>> Sure, there's nothing special about unbound workers.  They're just normal
>> kthreads.
> 
> I should've been clearer: As I understand it, normal (unbound) worker items
> are bound to the CPU on which they were queued, and will be executed there
> only (barring CPU removal).  If that's the case, isn't it possible that work
> items can be prevented from getting execution time by an RT thread that's
> hogging a CPU and won't let go?

Yeah, for bound workqueues, sure.  That's exactly the same as the
original workqueue implementation.  For unbound workqueues, it doesn't
matter.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-21 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-20 22:39 [PATCHSET] workqueue: implement and use WQ_UNBOUND Tejun Heo
2010-07-21 13:08 ` David Howells
2010-07-21 14:59   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2010-07-21 15:03     ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-21 15:25     ` David Howells
2010-07-21 15:31       ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-21 15:38         ` David Howells
2010-07-21 15:42           ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-21 15:45         ` David Howells
2010-07-21 15:51           ` Tejun Heo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-29 16:59 [PATCH 34/35] async: use workqueue for worker pool Tejun Heo
2010-06-28 21:03 ` [PATCHSET] workqueue: concurrency managed workqueue, take#6 Tejun Heo
2010-06-28 21:04   ` [PATCH 34/35] async: use workqueue for worker pool Tejun Heo
2010-06-28 22:55     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29  7:25       ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-29 12:18         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 15:46           ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-29 15:52             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 15:55               ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-29 16:40                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-29 21:37                   ` David Howells
2010-07-02  9:17                     ` [PATCHSET] workqueue: implement and use WQ_UNBOUND Tejun Heo
2010-07-02  9:32                       ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-07  5:41                       ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-14  9:39                         ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-20 22:01                       ` David Howells

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