From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1ObhnE-0003HL-Gi for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:29:36 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42794 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ObhnA-0003F5-O3 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:29:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Obhn9-00009a-69 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:29:32 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com ([209.85.161.41]:64452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Obhn9-00009M-0v for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:29:31 -0400 Received: by fxm20 with SMTP id 20so4404564fxm.0 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:29:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=mz14ghexTYau3ElrWX2bmhDAMIHyt1pW7Ujz0qxl12k=; b=wQ6hQ+fKVfCeBUl/NUIhJmk1dllkklPXtAbZvMzOfqVNJ0xVRcp/iU7JWaDKRV1Kup 1+0L0Wx3kdhyeWqPQM2iXNkXJheFED4veIqnwupz4KgkJvxtQ9DrUws9ZNH6sCTdEPqK LTNOSHBh7ROiinFS8WkYE5Vexr28+Wdtw/JkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=WUWq+WjA59UaW6O0KiK0i/+HwM4lF/9Bs/lF6XGjj4i/AZu3s8WQxOuMnmvtcBPk/i yNfnCEsbfwJ7Mqm17l0MlnOR+kTPEYp36EG+nsOYhoD9MVmCVkx9isJLA9jstm5I9AJy 0xtqv4rzyowHIMN+0y1iUBngrpOoWsJk1fDqM= Received: by 10.223.124.205 with SMTP id v13mr971499far.94.1279751370035; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debian.bg45.phnet (vpn-global-dhcp3-135.ethz.ch [129.132.210.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f11sm1653539fak.44.2010.07.21.15.29.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4774BF.9060009@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:29:19 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?VmxhZGltaXIgJ8+GLWNvZGVyL3BoY29kZXInIFNlcmJpbmVua28=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100620 Icedove/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BRLTTY@mielke.cc, The development of GRUB 2 , mlang@debian.org, Samuel Thibault X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8E1E6386674216A4B6C55062" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: Subject: Fwd: [RFC] GRUB2 and braille support X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:29:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8E1E6386674216A4B6C55062 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [RFC] GRUB2 and braille support Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:08:45 +0200 From: Vladimir '=CF=86-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko To: The development of GRUB 2 , BRLTTY@mielke.cc Hello, all. RMLL2010 was useful for GRUB project too. On one hand it allowed me to give a speech about it and on the other hand it has brought new ideas. In particular with Samuel Thibault we discussed accessibility. Mainstream color defaults are black and white which gives good contrast and no problems for colorblind people. If distribution changes these defaults they have to ensure that their defaults Next step is to help people having either vision or motor problems. @Samuel: whcih options can we propose for people which aren't blind but have vision problems? It's already possible to load bigger fonts. Now I'm working on braille support. I already coded 40x1 menu selector and menuentry editor. For 40x1 console I need to add scrolling first. it's in branches/a11y I also coded FTDI and PL3203 usbserial drivers. It's in branches/usb. Now we need the braille drivers to go in-between. I thought of importing Linux braille drivers since they seem to be under GPLv2+. I hope that I CC the right list for it. My plan is to have an import similar to what we have with libgcrypt: we copy the patches verbatim and try to emulate the environment similar to native one. If any preprocessing is needed we have 2 directories: one with files as they are imported and another with the files to compile. The second one is generated from the first one with python script at autogen phase. This way we avoid forking and can easily resync What do you think? --=20 Regards Vladimir '=CF=86-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko --------------enig8E1E6386674216A4B6C55062 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREKAAYFAkxHdL8ACgkQNak7dOguQgnGzAD/QM848Mql8QuPoeG4Net12J+9 MxMH+bcrY+PG7uyL41UA/jctVS3Z9AjjoB5xrlCJsHEHbeXyW5IUsn1mqKnH6Wxj =WyZg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8E1E6386674216A4B6C55062--