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From: "Gáspár Lajos" <swifty@freemail.hu>
To: Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	Pascal Hambourg <pascal.mail@plouf.fr.eu.org>,
	netfilter@vger.kernel.org, "Dennis J." <dennisml@conversis.de>,
	pablo@netfilter.org
Subject: Re: Synflood filtering and Conntrack
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:14:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C51B6E7.4010502@freemail.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1007291723040.32027@blackhole.kfki.hu>

2010-07-29 17:50 keltezéssel, Jozsef Kadlecsik írta:
> I don't see why it looks soo complicated: of course, a ct entry is 
> created
> by conntrack whenever a new connection is detected. And of course the
> entry is destroyed if the packet, which triggered to create the new entry,
> is dropped by a rule. Why should the conntrack entry be kept, if the
> connection is not allowed by the rules?
>
>    
Correct me if I am wrong.

You can only destroy the entry (CONNECTION) if the PACKET which 
"created" the entry is DROPped.
But you can NOT destroy the entry (just wait for timeout) if:
- the DROPped packet is not the first (SYN),
- there is no LOCAL reply,
- packets are FORWARDed.

I think that 99% of the conntrack entries are kept this way until timeout.

It it is true then there is no "standard" real help against a SYN flood. 
(CHAOSTABLES?)


Swifty


  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-29 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-27 22:29 Synflood filtering and Conntrack Dennis J.
2010-07-28  5:24 ` Mart Frauenlob
2010-07-28  6:11   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-28 13:30     ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-28 14:10       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-28 14:27         ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-29 11:11     ` Mart Frauenlob
2010-07-29 11:21       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-29 11:31         ` Mart Frauenlob
2010-07-29 12:34           ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-29 12:49             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-29 13:16               ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-29 15:50               ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-07-29 17:14                 ` Gáspár Lajos [this message]
2010-07-29 17:52                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-07-29 22:18                 ` Mart Frauenlob
2010-07-29 23:19                 ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-30 10:32                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik

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