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From: Michal Novotny <minovotn@redhat.com>
To: "Pasi Kärkkäinen" <pasik@iki.fi>
Cc: Christoph Egger <Christoph.Egger@amd.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	Dhananjay Goel <dhananjaygoel123@gmail.com>,
	James Harper <james.harper@bendigoit.com.au>
Subject: Re: Virtualization project idea
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:48:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C77C21B.6070008@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100827133333.GJ2804@reaktio.net>

On 08/27/2010 03:33 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 03:26:46PM +0200, Michal Novotny wrote:
>    
>> On 08/27/2010 03:22 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>>      
>>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 03:18:01PM +0200, Christoph Egger wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> On Friday 27 August 2010 15:08:47 Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 06:33:35PM +0530, Dhananjay Goel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>>      Yes, exactly. So, we wanted to know if it is possible to *share USB*
>>>>>>      across VMs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>> I don't think USB protocol has been designed for *sharing*.
>>>>> I'm pretty certain only one computer/device/VM can use USB device at a
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> This might work with firewire devices, I'm not sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Yeah, firewire (iee1394) is designed to so that you can attach
>>> the devices to multiple computers..
>>>
>>> If you attach the same firewire-disk to multiple computers,
>>> and use the disk from multiple computers at the same time,
>>> you *will* corrupt the filesystem on the disk.
>>>
>>> Unless you run some kind of filesystem that has lock-manager,
>>> that can coordinate the shared access to the disk..
>>> ie. you must be running cluster-aware filesystem.
>>>
>>> -- Pasi
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Well guys, but we're talking about USB. The USB protocol is different
>> from firewire one. But that's right that I didn't know that. How is it
>> exactly done with the firewire to connect to multiple computers?
>>
>>      
> Some (or all?) firewire devices have 'daisy chain' connectors,
> so you can link multiple devices together..
>
> You can use those connectors to hook up the same device to multiple computers.
>
> People have implemented for example cheap proof-of-concept failover Oracle DB clusters
> using firewire disks as cheap 'shared storage'.. there are many tutorials
> about that on the internet.
>
> -- Pasi
>
>    
Oh, great! Thanks for sharing this information!

Michal

-- 
Michal Novotny<minovotn@redhat.com>, RHCE
Virtualization Team (xen userspace), Red Hat

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-27 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2010-08-26 18:40 ` [Qemu-devel] Virtualization project idea Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-26 18:44   ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-26 19:56     ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-26 22:58     ` James Harper
2010-08-27  8:07       ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27  8:46         ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27  9:15           ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27  9:19             ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27  9:20               ` David Markey
2010-08-27  9:23                 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27  9:25                   ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27  9:44                     ` Keir Fraser
2010-08-27  9:48                       ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27  9:50                         ` David Markey
2010-08-27  9:56                           ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27  9:57                         ` Keir Fraser
2010-08-27 18:26                           ` Gianni Tedesco
2010-08-27  9:23               ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27 10:31                 ` Marc - A. Dahlhaus
2010-08-27 10:57                 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 11:26                   ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27 11:54                     ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 12:46                       ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27 12:53                         ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 13:03                           ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27 13:08                             ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 13:17                               ` Michal Novotny
2010-08-27 13:30                                 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 13:35                                   ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27 13:46                                     ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 13:55                                       ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27 14:09                                         ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 13:47                                   ` Michal Novotny
2010-08-27 17:05                                   ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 13:18                               ` Christoph Egger
2010-08-27 13:22                                 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 13:26                                   ` Michal Novotny
2010-08-27 13:33                                     ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 13:48                                       ` Michal Novotny [this message]
2010-08-27 13:29                               ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27 13:34                                 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 13:50                                   ` Michal Novotny
2010-08-27 14:00                                     ` Dhananjay Goel
2010-08-27 14:20                                       ` Michal Novotny
2010-08-27 16:58       ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 15:12     ` Gianni Tedesco
2010-08-27 16:21       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-08-27 16:51         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-27 16:51           ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-27 17:01           ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [Xen-devel] " David Markey
2010-08-27 17:01             ` David Markey
2010-08-27 17:06             ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [Xen-devel] " Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-27 17:06               ` Pasi Kärkkäinen

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