All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Denis Kenzior <denkenz@gmail.com>
To: ofono@ofono.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add agent API to message atom
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:04:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C7D1A16.1090400@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1283258260.7452.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3932 bytes --]

Hi Aki,

>>> This of course means that we need a bit more intelligent matching of the
>>> handled types. In general I am against the overhead of regex for this. I
>>> prefer glob style matching with just * and ?. That should be good
>>> enough. If you really need regex pattern matching then then I think a
>>> specialized oFono plugin with its own APIs is the way to go.
>>
>> This was basically what I was thinking, too, with the addition of ^
>> and $ for matching at the end or beginning of a message.
> 
> within GLib we have glob pattern matching functions, but nothing that
> additionally takes ^ and $. Why do you think this would be useful and
> needed? How many message agents to you expect to be running that are not
> using port numbers? Do you have some examples messages in mind?
> 

I'm still not seeing the usefulness of glob/regex matching for text
messages.  Are we dealing with some legacy SMS format, like RFC 2822
compatibility?  If so, making specific API might be better.

>>>> +Methods              void ImmediateMessage(string message, dict info)
>>>> +
>>>> +                     New immediate (class 0) SMS received.  Info has Sender,
>>>> +                     LocalSentTime, and SentTime information.  Sender
>>>> +                     address is given in string format.  LocalSentTime and
>>>> +                     SentTime are given in string form using ISO8601 format.
>>>
>>> Should these really be delivered via an agent?
>>
>> Why not?
> 
> These class 0 message are special and I think the home screen applet can
> just use the current D-Bus signal to deal with them. I don't think that
> we need special handling for them.
> 

I agree with Marcel here, immediate messages are destined for the home
screen and are not even tracked in history.

>>>> +             void IncomingMessage(string message, dict info)
>>>> +
>>>> +                     New incoming text SMS received.  Info has Sender,
>>>> +                     LocalSentTime, and SentTime information.
>>>> +
>>>> +             void IncomingPush(array{byte} message, dict info)
>>>> +
>>>> +                     New incoming push message received.  Info has Sender,
>>>> +                     LocalSentTime, SentTime, and ApplicationId information.
>>>> +
>>>> +             void IncomingApplication(array{byte} message, dict info)
>>>> +
>>>> +                     New incoming application message received.  Info has
>>>> +                     Sender, LocalSentTime, SentTime, DestinationPort, and
>>>> +                     SourcePort information.
>>>
>>> Why the difference between Push and Application. The dict could be
>>> easily used here to differentiate.
>>
>> True. And in fact we discussed this in IRC with Denis a bit and
>> decided that separating WAP push makes little sense overall. If the
>> agent needs to decode the WSP anyway, we're not providing much value
>> add in oFono just decoding the X-Wap-Application-Id header field. So
>> the agent might as well just use the application ports to register.
> 
> Personally I like the idea of doing the whole WSP decoding inside oFono,
> but if we have WAP Push over IP transport and the WAP Push daemon has to
> do the decoding again anyway, this seems to be not a good idea.

I said almost the same thing on IRC ;)

Someone also mentioned sending of binary SMS messages.  I want to avoid
giving applications ability to do that over D-Bus completely.  There are
only a few of these that are required, namely Send VCard and Send VCal,
so a dedicated set of methods would be better.  If we go in this
direction, then receiving VCards and VCals should also have dedicated
DBus API.

This leaves App/Port addressing useful for WSPs and maybe carrier
specific Visual Voicemail messages.  Given that, I'm not entirely
convinced RegisterApplicationAgent is a good idea...

Regards,
-Denis



  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-31 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-30 15:50 [RFC] Add agent API to message atom Aki Niemi
2010-08-31  0:06 ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-08-31  6:15   ` Aki Niemi
2010-08-31 12:37     ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-08-31 15:04       ` Denis Kenzior [this message]
2010-09-01  5:57       ` Aki Niemi
2010-09-01 12:40         ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-08-31  3:37 ` Zhang, Caiwen
2010-08-31  6:20   ` Aki Niemi

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4C7D1A16.1090400@gmail.com \
    --to=denkenz@gmail.com \
    --cc=ofono@ofono.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.