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From: Michal Novotny <minovotn@redhat.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: "'xen-devel@lists.xensource.com'" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Disallow setting maxmem to higher value than total physical memory size
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:01:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C7E4EAD.3060106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1283345049.12544.9494.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com>

On 09/01/2010 02:44 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 13:31 +0100, Michal Novotny wrote:
>    
>> Hi,
>> this is the patch to disallow changing the maxmem value to higher value
>> than total physical memory size since without this patch I was able to
>> set dom0 maxmem to higher (invalid) value which is not correct.
>>      
> I think it is allowable for a domU though. Consider the scenario where
> you have two hosts, one of which has more physical RAM than the other.
>    

Yeah, that's right. This scenario has been taken into mind and in fact 
this patch shouldn't do any harm on domU but it was mainly made for dom0 
since dom0 default maxmem value is being set to 16 GiB on x86_64 machine 
which is not correct since it allows setting up up to 16 GiB RAM to dom0 
although we have available only 8 GiB for example. Issuing `xm mem-set 
10240` is therefore possible but it shouldn't be so it's trying to 
reserve 10240. The main issue is that xenstore was having maxmem value 
of 10240 instead of maximum value possible, i.e. value of 8192 in my 
case. Since xenstore itself was having the incorrect information it was 
implemented for xenstore to provide valid information too.
> You may which to boot a domain on the smaller host, (i.e. booting
> ballooned with a current_pages suitable for the small host) and then
> migrate it to the large machine where you then want to be able to
> balloon to a value larger than was even possible on the previous
> machine.
>
> If maxmem is not configured to the largest amount you consider you might
> want to give the domain then this scenario fails but it should work.
>    

Well, if maxmem is not configured for PV domain you mean? This is the 
check only for case that info['maxmem_kb'] > total_mem so if the value 
is not configured what value will be in this variable? If there would be 
a value of 0 (for example) it won't meet the condition at all.

> What is the actual issue with setting a larger maxmem even for domain 0
> that you are trying to resolve? Just that it will continue to attempt to
> balloon up and never get there?
>    

Like stated above, it's the incorrect value in xenstore so this xenstore 
value is not reliable without this patch since without this patch you 
can set the value of dom0/domU to, let's say, 10G, but this won't be 
correct since the value can be having just 8G of RAM. Therefore some 
scripts relaying on the xenstore information would get confused by 
maxmem settings since there will be a value of 10G but host would still 
be physically having just 8G so xend could not be trusted on that one so 
that's why I think this is worth fixing.

Michal

-- 
Michal Novotny<minovotn@redhat.com>, RHCE
Virtualization Team (xen userspace), Red Hat

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-01 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-01 12:31 [PATCH] Disallow setting maxmem to higher value than total physical memory size Michal Novotny
2010-09-01 12:44 ` Ian Campbell
2010-09-01 13:01   ` Michal Novotny [this message]
2010-09-01 13:37     ` Ian Campbell
2010-09-01 14:18       ` Michal Novotny
2010-09-01 14:21         ` Michal Novotny
2010-09-01 14:26         ` Jan Beulich
2010-09-01 14:50           ` Michal Novotny
2010-09-01 15:00             ` Jan Beulich
2010-09-01 15:10               ` Michal Novotny
2010-09-01 15:14                 ` Jan Beulich
2010-09-01 15:20         ` Ian Campbell
2010-09-01 15:34           ` Michal Novotny
2010-09-01 16:53   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-09-01 17:56     ` Ian Campbell
2010-09-01 18:15       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-09-01 18:53         ` Ian Campbell
2010-09-01 21:10           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-09-02  5:43             ` Ian Campbell

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