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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 4/15]  4: uprobes: x86 specific functions for user space breakpointing.
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:56:08 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C858DA8.3060600@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100906134407.GF14891@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

(2010/09/06 22:44), Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
> [adding Masami and Jim to the copy list] 
> 
>>> I havent tried any fuzz tests with the instruction decoder. But I am
>>> not sure if Masami has tried that out some of these. 
>>> One question: Do you want to test uprobes with crashme or test
>>> instruction decoder with crashme.

As you can see in kernel tree, x86 insn decoder has a test
which decodes vmlinux and compares results with objdump.
Similar tests had been done for glibc etc. by Jim.
But crashme looks better. :)

>> Ideally both, but as a minimum the part that is exposed
>> to user space, that is uprobes.
> 
> Okay, I will test uprobes with crashme.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> validate_insn_32bit is able to identify all valid instructions in a 32
>>> bit app and validate_insn_64bits is a superset of
>>> validate_insn_32bits; i.e it considers valid 32 bit codes as valid
>>> too.
>>
>> How can this be? e.g. 32bit has 1 byte INC/DEC but on 64bit
>> these are REX prefixes and can be in front of nearly anything.
>> So a super set cannot be correct. It has to be either / or.
>>
> 
> You are right, the validate_insn_32bits refers to good_insns_32 and
> validate_insn_64bits refers to good_insns_64 to decode 1 byte
> instructions. Some instructions like 0x06 and 0x0e seem to be valid in
> good_insns_32 but not in good_insns_64. 

Hmm, if you need to validate all instructions, you'd better to
enhance x86 decoder for checking bad instructions.
I think it can be done mostly by adding inat bitflags.

Thank you,

>>> Did you get a chance to look at
>>> validate_insn_32bit/validate_insn_64bits? If you feel that
>>> validate_insn_32bit/validate_insn_64bits? are unable to detect
>>> valid codes, then I will certainly rework.
>>
>> I don't think you can do a 100% solution because for 100%
>> you would need to know the code segment the CPU is going
>> to use later, and that's not possible in advance.
>>
> 
> I think you are referring to RIP related instructions, this how we
> handle them. 
> Please correct us if we are wrong, but here is what we do 
> - While analyzing the instruction, take into account which register acts
>   as the code segment register.
> 
> - When interrupted (but before singlestep), copy the contents of the
>   register which we think acts as code segment register in our
>   above analysis into per-task scratch variable.
> 
> - After singlestepping we retrieve the saved per-task scratch
>   variable into the corresponding register.
> 
>> A heuristic is reasonable (and leave out applications
>> that generate 64bit code from 32bit executables or vice versa)
>> but you need to test the right personality bits for that.
>>
>>
>>>> Also the compat bit is not necessarily set if no system call is
>>>> executing. You would rather need to check the exec_domain.
>>>
>>> Okay, I shall check and revert on this.
>>
>> Hmm actually I double checked and this is a separate bit.
>> So scratch that, TIF_32BIT is ok to test.
> 
> Okay, Thanks for confirming this.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-07  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-25 13:41 [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 0/15] 0: Uprobes Patches Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:41 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 1/15] 1: mm: Move replace_page() / write_protect_page() to mm/memory.c Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:41 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 2/15] 2: uprobes: Breakpoint insertion/removal in user space applications Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-01 19:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-25 13:41 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 3/15] 3: uprobes: Slot allocation for Execution out of line(XOL) Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-01 20:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-03 16:40     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-03 16:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-03 17:26         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-03 17:41           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06  5:38             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-03 17:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-02  8:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-02 17:47     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-03  7:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 17:59         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-06 18:20           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 18:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-25 13:42 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 4/15] 4: uprobes: x86 specific functions for user space breakpointing Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-03 10:26   ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-03 17:48     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-03 18:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06  7:53       ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-06 13:44         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-06 14:16           ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-07  0:56           ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2010-08-25 13:42 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 5/15] 5: uprobes: Uprobes (un)registration and exception handling Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-01 21:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-02  8:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-03 16:42     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-03 17:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 17:46         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-06 18:15           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 18:15           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-07  6:48             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-07  9:33               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-07 11:51                 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-07 12:25                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 18:25           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-06 20:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-06 21:06             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 21:12               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-06 21:18                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-07 12:02             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-09-07 16:47               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-03 17:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-01 21:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-25 13:42 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 6/15] 6: uprobes: X86 support for Uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:42 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 7/15] 7: uprobes: Uprobes Documentation Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:42 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 8/15] 8: tracing: Extract out common code for kprobes/uprobes traceevents Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:43 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 9/15] 9: tracing: uprobes trace_event interface Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:43 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 10/15] 10: tracing: config option to enable both kprobe-tracer and uprobe-tracer Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-26  6:02   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-08-27  9:31     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-27 11:04       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-08-27 12:17         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-27 15:37           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-08-27 14:10     ` [PATCHv11a " Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:43 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 11/15] 11: perf: list symbols in a dso in ascending order Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 23:21   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-08-26  4:32     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-30  8:35   ` [tip:perf/core] perf symbols: List symbols in a dso in ascending name order tip-bot for Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:43 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 12/15] 12: perf: show possible probes in a given file Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-27 14:21   ` [PATCHv11a " Srikar Dronamraju
2010-10-20  9:56     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-08-25 13:43 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 13/15] 13: perf: Loop thro each of the maps in a map_group Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:44 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 14/15] 14: perf: perf interface for uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2010-08-25 13:44 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 15/15] 15: perf: Show Potential probe points Srikar Dronamraju
2010-10-29  9:23 ` [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 0/15] 0: Uprobes Patches Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-29 10:48   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-11-04 18:45     ` Christoph Hellwig

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