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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU interfaces for image streaming and post-copy block migration
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:00:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C8661AD.2060903@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C865CB5.8070508@redhat.com>

On 09/07/2010 10:39 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 07.09.2010 17:30, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>    
>> On 09/07/2010 10:20 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>      
>>> Am 07.09.2010 17:11, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>>        
>>>> Copy-on-read is, in many cases, a property of the backing file because
>>>> it suggests that the backing file is either very slow or potentially
>>>> volatile.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> The simple copy-on-read without actively streaming the rest of the image
>>> is not enough anyway for volatile backing files.
>>>
>>>        
>> But as a web site owner, it's extremely useful for me to associate
>> copy-on-read with an image because it significantly reduces my bandwidth.
>>
>> I have a hard time believing this isn't a valuable use-case and not one
>> that's actually pretty common.
>>      
> As a web site user, I don't necessarily want you to control the
> behaviour of my qemu. :-)
>    

That's why I understand your argument about -blockdev and making sure 
all compat features can be overridden.  I'm happy with that as a 
requirement.Okay, the only place I'm disagreeing slightly is that I 
think an image

>> format should be able to request copy_on_read such that the default
>> behavior if an explicit flag isn't specified is to do what the image
>> suggests we do.
>>      
> Maybe we can agree on that. I'm not completely decided yet if allowing
> the image to contain such a hint is a good or a bad thing.
>    

It's a tough space.  We don't want to include crazy amounts of metadata 
(and basically become OVF) but there's metadata that we would like to have.

backing_format is a good example.  It's a suggestion and it's something 
you really want to let a user override.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Kevin
>    

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-07 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-07 13:41 [Qemu-devel] QEMU interfaces for image streaming and post-copy block migration Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 14:01 ` Alexander Graf
2010-09-07 14:31   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 14:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 14:51   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 14:55     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 15:00       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:09         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 15:20           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-08  8:26           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 14:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 14:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 14:57     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:05       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 15:23         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 12:41       ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 13:25         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 13:40           ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 15:23             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 16:45               ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 17:19                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 17:31                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 14:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:02     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 15:11       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:20         ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 15:30           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:39             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 16:00               ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-09-07 15:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-09-07 15:16   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 10:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity

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