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From: Phil Turmel <philip@turmel.org>
To: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Julia Lawall <julia@diku.dk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	uml-devel <user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Subject: Re: {painfully BISECTED} Please revert f25c80a4b2:  arch/um/drivers: remove duplicate structure field initialization
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:06:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CA0A502.5040404@turmel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CA09977.80506@panasas.com>

On 09/27/2010 09:17 AM, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
[snip /]
> 
> <RANT A HEAD CAN BE IGNORED>
> 
> It has become extremely hard to bisect a simple problem in latest Kernels!
> 
> Most mainline merges during a merge window are based on an rc1 of the previous
> Kernel. In the last 5 Kernels there was a 90% chance of a BAD bug in systems
> I use, at rc1. If a bug is found that needs bisecting. The other bugs creep
> up during bisect and mask out the possibility to bisect.

I had similar problems when bisecting the recent USB HID regression.  Once I
realized that "bisect skip" kept dropping me into a rats nest, I guessed on
-rc2 and was able to proceed from there.

...

> In short I wish at some 2.6.XX-rc[45] of every Kernel cycle. Maintainers
> would rebase their next's tree of [XX+1] to a some what more stable rc.
> Sure re-run all the tests. They still have time for the new tree in next
> to be tested and verified before the next merge window.
> (Hell one of my bisect points took me as back as 2.6.34)
> 
> Please remind me why maintainers should not rebase their trees once
> committed, to the point that they don't rebase even for buggy patches
> that are already in next, and apply fix patches, all within the same
> merge window. The same is also done with merge conflicts with the
> rc-cycle of their own code, instead of rebasing.
> 
> So in short this is a call for, possibly, cleaner History in main Kernel.
> Please remind me why re-writing history is a bad thing.

I can't comment on whether rebasing is reasonable at that level, but I
was wondering if it made sense to teach git bisect to automatically
cherry-pick known regression fixes.  If I recall correctly, someone once
suggested a  history tag of the form "Fixes: <git-commit-id>".  By itself,
that's probably not sufficient, as I'm sure some relevant commits would
get through without that tag.  A separate index file containing pairs of
commit-ids could supplement the main history.

If that sounds like a reasonable approach, I'm willing to take a stab at
implementing it.  (Unless someone smarter than me beats me to it, of course.)

Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-27 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-27 13:17 {painfully BISECTED} Please revert f25c80a4b2: arch/um/drivers: remove duplicate structure field initialization Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-27 14:06 ` Phil Turmel [this message]
2010-09-28 20:24 ` [uml-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2010-09-28 20:24   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-28 20:47   ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Morton
2010-09-28 20:47     ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-28 20:51     ` David Miller
2010-09-28 20:57     ` [uml-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2010-09-28 20:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-28 21:00       ` [uml-devel] " David Miller
2010-09-28 21:00         ` David Miller
2010-09-28 21:08         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-29  8:34       ` [uml-devel] [PATCH] um: Proper Fix for f25c80a4: " Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-29  8:34         ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-29 15:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-30  2:28           ` [uml-devel] " David Miller
2010-09-30  2:28             ` David Miller
2010-09-29  8:41       ` {painfully BISECTED} Please revert f25c80a4b2: arch/um/drivers: " Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-29 15:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-30  2:27           ` David Miller
2010-09-28 21:11   ` Al Viro
2010-09-28 21:24     ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2010-09-28 21:24       ` Al Viro
2010-09-28 21:42       ` David Miller
2010-09-28 21:51         ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2010-09-28 21:51           ` Al Viro
2010-09-29 17:19           ` [uml-devel] " Renzo Davoli
2011-01-26 16:32   ` {painfullyBISECTED} " Emil Langrock

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