From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47043 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P624K-0005Er-RT for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:13:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P623f-0004jO-C3 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:12:36 -0400 Received: from e38.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.159]:41688) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P623f-0004jJ-6s for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:11:55 -0400 Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e38.co.us.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o9DE3wD7021722 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:03:58 -0600 Received: from d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (d03av06.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.245]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id o9DEBoii165298 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:11:51 -0600 Received: from d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id o9DEFf7k019080 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:15:41 -0600 Message-ID: <4CB5BE25.3060502@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:11:49 -0500 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] qed: Read/write support References: <1286552914-27014-7-git-send-email-stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4CB479D2.7030901@redhat.com> <4CB47D38.3060602@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4CB48144.9030607@redhat.com> <20101012155953.GA13872@stefan-thinkpad.transitives.com> <4CB489D1.3050204@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20101013121328.GB8998@stefan-thinkpad.transitives.com> <4CB5AF0D.9000800@redhat.com> <4CB5B2FD.9030205@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4CB5B908.1020406@redhat.com> <20101013140715.GF8998@stefan-thinkpad.transitives.com> <4CB5BDD1.8050409@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4CB5BDD1.8050409@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: Kevin Wolf , Christoph Hellwig , Stefan Hajnoczi , qemu-devel@nongnu.org >> > > >> > >That means we can maintain the physical size without introducing >> > >additional fsync()s in the allocation path. Since we're already >> > >writing out the header anyway, the write operation is basically >> > >free too. >> > >> > I don't see how it is free. It's an extra write. The good news is >> > that it's very easy to amortize. >> >> We only need to update the header field on disk when we're already >> updating the header, so it's not even an extra write operation. > > Why would you ever update the header, apart from relocating L1 for > some reason? To update the L1/L2 tables clean bit. That's what prevents a check in the normal case where you have a clean shutdown. Regards, Anthony Liguori