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From: Mr Dash Four <mr.dash.four-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
To: "Amadeusz Żołnowski" <aidecoe-2qtfh70TtYba5EbDDlwbIw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: initramfs <initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 90crypt: keys on external devices support
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:06:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CBEF768.90908@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1287580112-sup-97@etiriah>


> Next thing is give possibility to put keys inside initramfs.
>   
I don't think this is such a good idea as having the crypto keys reside 
in the same place as the kernel would completely defeats the purpose of 
using crypto devices.


> If you'd like to write support for smartcard, I'd be glad to see it as
> a separate module.  Don't hesitate to post your progress on ml for our
> review.
>   
I am not sure it would be as a separate module though (may be, at a 
later stage) - for now I'll try to use the existing module/framework in 
place and extend its functionality, hence why I posted some of my ideas 
late last night to canvass an opinion - from what I can gather, as you 
and Harald are the two main contributors to the crypto side of dracut it 
is good to know what you think?

The way I see it simplifying the various kernel parameters (particularly 
those designed to deal with luks-related partitions) is the way forward.

The one issue I am facing right now before I can even begin coding 
smartcard support in dracut is that I am not at all clear how it deals 
with the various dependencies when I ask a program to be installed 
(using the '-I' option) as 'pkcs11-tool' for example, would need at 
least 2 more executables available (with half-a-dozen other .ko library 
files) and at least two configuration files present and available at the 
time of execution.

The configuration files present another challenge in itself - most 
(default) settings work in about 90% of all cases, but for the rest 
these settings have to be changed (card reader types, various attributes 
set etc) and for that there are two options: either 1) create initrd 
image which is tailored to a specific configuration (and therefore these 
configuration files are embedded, so to speak, into the initrd image 
itself); or 2) take these configuration files out of the initrd 
altogether and make them available in the /boot directory/partition (in 
/boot/dracut for example!) when dracut is instantiated (hence why I 
asked in my previous post does dracut have at least 'read' access to 
that directory/partition)?

One other thing I forgot to mention in my last post that with the 
proposed parameter changes there is a third possible scenario with the 
password authentication, in which case, the format of the parameter in 
the kernel would simply be:

c) rd.luks.<luks_uuid>[=]

The equal sign (=) would not be mandatory and may not be specified. For 
example 'rd.luks.def0269e-424b-4752-acf3-1077bf96ad2c' will opens LUKS 
drive with UUID=def0269e-424b-4752-acf3-1077bf96ad2c after asking for a 
password at the console (as is the case now).

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-20 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-19 13:54 [PATCH] 90crypt: keys on external devices support Mr Dash Four
     [not found] ` <4CBDA328.40401-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-19 14:19   ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-19 14:33     ` Mr Dash Four
     [not found]       ` <4CBDAC3D.7050906-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-20  1:24         ` Mr Dash Four
     [not found]           ` <4CBE44D3.6070000-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-20 14:12             ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-20 14:44               ` Mr Dash Four
     [not found]                 ` <4CBF004F.9070201-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-20 15:17                   ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-20 15:37                     ` Mr Dash Four
     [not found]                       ` <4CBF0CA3.1070801-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-22 16:51                         ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-21 13:29                     ` Karel Zak
     [not found]                       ` <20101021132916.GC22186-sHeGUpI7y9L/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-21 13:54                         ` Mr Dash Four
     [not found]                           ` <4CC0462E.20507-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-21 15:18                             ` Karel Zak
     [not found]                               ` <20101021151802.GD22186-sHeGUpI7y9L/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-21 15:48                                 ` Mr Dash Four
     [not found]                                   ` <4CC060B3.3050508-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-22 16:40                                     ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-22 18:34                                     ` Karel Zak
2010-10-20 13:19         ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-20 14:06           ` Mr Dash Four [this message]
     [not found]             ` <4CBEF768.90908-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-20 14:25               ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-20 14:48                 ` Mr Dash Four
     [not found]                   ` <4CBF0133.2070709-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-20 15:26                     ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-20 15:39                       ` Mr Dash Four
2010-10-22 11:50                       ` Mr Dash Four
     [not found]                         ` <4CC17A87.7050804-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-22 17:07                           ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-23 15:13                             ` Mr Dash Four
2010-10-22 11:35   ` dracut Mr Dash Four
     [not found]     ` <4CC17713.4030504-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-22 17:13       ` dracut Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-26 11:09       ` dracut Harald Hoyer
     [not found]         ` <4CC6B6E5.50402-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-26 11:23           ` dracut Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-10-26 11:36             ` dracut Mr Dash Four
2010-10-26 11:26           ` dracut Mr Dash Four
     [not found]             ` <4CC6BB02.9040901-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-29 21:40               ` dracut Mr Dash Four
2010-10-30  7:57       ` dracut Ambroz Bizjak
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTinO0edPay_HxUW93Dm2PpHkchxKDC1yezhV-u2K-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-30 11:18           ` dracut Mr Dash Four
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2010-07-13 17:14 [PATCH] 90crypt: keys on external devices support Amadeusz Żołnowski
2010-07-21 11:41 ` Harald Hoyer

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