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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: define arch_vm_get_page_prot to set _PAGE_IOMAP on VM_IO vmas
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:44:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CC1BF58.9020001@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101022150826.GA23325@dumpdata.com>

On 10/22/2010 08:08 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>
>> Okay, could you clarify this part a bit?  Why does the kernel need to
>> know the difference between "pseudo-physical" and "machine addresses" at
>> all?  If they overlap, there is a problem, and if they don't overlap, it
>> will be a 1:1 mapping anyway...
> 
> The flag (_PAGE_IOMAP) is used when we set the PTE so that the MFN value is
> used instead of the PFN. We need that b/c when a driver does page_to_pfn()
> it ends up using the PFN as bus address to write out registers data.
> 
> Without this patch, the page->virt->PFN value is used and the PFN != to real MFN
> so we end up writing in a memory address that the PCI device has no idea about.
> By setting the PTE with the MFN, the virt->PFN gets the real MFN value.
> 
> The drivers I am talking about are mostly, if not all, located in drivers/gpu
> and it looks that we are missing two more patches to utilize the patch
> that Jeremy posted.
> 
> Please note that I am _not_ suggesting that the two patches
> below should go out - I still need to post them on drm mailing list.
> 

I'm still seriously confused.  If I understand this correctly, we're
talking about DMA addresses here (as opposed to PIO addresses, i.e.
BARs), right?

It's the bimodality that really bothers me.  I understand of course that
Xen imposes yet another address remapping layer, but I'm having a hard
time understanding any conditions under with we would need that layer to
go away, as long as DMA addresses are translated via the DMA APIs -- and
if they aren't, then iommus will break, too.

As such, I don't grok this page flag and what it does, and why it's
needed.  I'm not saying it's *wrong*, I'm saying the design is opaque to
me and I'm not sure it is the right solution.

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-22 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-21 22:40 [PATCH] x86: define arch_vm_get_page_prot to set _PAGE_IOMAP on VM_IO vmas Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-10-21 22:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-21 22:47   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-21 23:17   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-10-21 23:17     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-10-22  0:45     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-22  0:45       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-22 15:08       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-10-22 16:44         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-10-22 18:02           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-10-22 18:05             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-10-22 19:06             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-22 19:11               ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-10-22 19:11                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-10-22 19:06           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-10-22 19:20             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-22 19:20               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-22 19:36               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-10-22 19:36                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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