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From: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>
Cc: "xenomai@xenomai.org" <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] Potential problem with rt_eepro100
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:18:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CD27A7E.1010304@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CD279F7.7070502@domain.hid>

Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Take a step back and look at the root cause for this issue again. Unlocked
>>
>> 	if need-resched
>> 		__xnpod_schedule
>>
>> is inherently racy and will always be (not only for the remote
>> reschedule case BTW).
> 
> Ok, let us examine what may happen with this code if we only set the
> XNRESCHED bit on the local cpu. First, other bits than XNRESCHED do not
> matter, because they can not change under our feet. So, we have two
> cases for this race:
> 1- we see the XNRESCHED bit, but it has been cleared once nklock is
> locked in __xnpod_schedule.
> 2- we do not see the XNRESCHED bit, but it get set right after we test it.
> 
> 1 is not a problem.
> 2 is not a problem, because anything which sets the XNRESCHED (it may
> only be an interrupt in fact) bit will cause xnpod_schedule to be called
> right after that.
> 
> So no, no race here provided that we only set the XNRESCHED bit on the
> local cpu.
> 
>  So we either have to accept this and remove the
>> debugging check from the scheduler or push the check back to
>> __xnpod_schedule where it once came from. When this it cleaned up, we
>> can look into the remote resched protocol again.
> 
> The problem of the debug check is that it checks whether the scheduler
> state is modified without the XNRESCHED bit being set. And this is the
> problem, because yes, in that case, we have a race: the scheduler state
> may be modified before the XNRESCHED bit is set by an IPI.
> 
> If we want to fix the debug check, we have to have a special bit, on in
                                                                   NOT
> the sched->status flag, only for the purpose of debugging. Or remove the
> debug check.
> 


-- 
                                                                Gilles.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-04  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <4CC84327.9070202@domain.hid>
2010-10-28  7:34   ` [Xenomai-core] [RTnet-users] Potential problem with rt_eepro100 Anders Blomdell
2010-10-28  7:40     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-10-28  9:34       ` Anders Blomdell
2010-10-28 10:18         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-10-28 13:02           ` [Xenomai-core] " Anders Blomdell
2010-10-28 15:05             ` Anders Blomdell
2010-10-28 15:09               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-10-28 15:18                 ` Anders Blomdell
2010-10-28 15:34                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-10-29 17:42                     ` Anders Blomdell
2010-10-29 18:06                       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-10-29 19:29                         ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-01 16:55           ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-03  8:17             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 10:33               ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-03 11:44                 ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-03 11:50                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 11:55                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 12:07                       ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-03 12:17                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 13:40                           ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-03 16:02                             ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-03 16:46                               ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-03 16:53                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 19:38                                   ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-03 20:41                                     ` Philippe Gerum
2010-11-03 22:03                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 22:11                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 22:56                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 23:11                                             ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-03 23:15                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 23:18                                                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-03 23:41                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 23:44                                                     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-03 23:49                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-03 23:56                                                         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-04  0:06                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04  0:13                                                             ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-04  7:30                                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04  8:45                                                                 ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-04  9:10                                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04  9:17                                                                   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-04  9:16                                                                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-04  9:18                                                                   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix [this message]
2010-11-04  9:26                                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04  9:32                                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04 10:42                                                                       ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-04 12:39                                                                       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-04 13:18                                                                         ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-04 14:37                                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04 14:53                                                                             ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-04 15:33                                                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04 22:08                                                                                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-04 23:10                                                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04 23:25                                                                                     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-04 23:32                                                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04 23:46                                                                                         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-05  0:09                                                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-05  0:11                                                                                             ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-05  1:35                                                                                           ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-05  9:59                                                                                             ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-04 22:06                                                                             ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-04 23:17                                                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-04 23:24                                                                                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-04 23:35                                                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-05  1:28                                                                                     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-05 10:21                                                                                       ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-06  0:27                                                                                         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-06 20:26                                                                                           ` Anders Blomdell
2010-11-06 20:37                                                                                             ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-06 22:49                                                                                               ` Philippe Gerum
2010-11-07  1:00                                                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-07  8:31                                                                                                   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-07  9:46                                                                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-07  9:57                                                                                                       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-07 10:00                                                                                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-07 10:03                                                                                                     ` Philippe Gerum
2010-11-07 10:08                                                                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-07 10:12                                                                                                         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-07 10:14                                                                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-07 10:49                                                                                                             ` Philippe Gerum
2010-11-07  9:46                                                                                                   ` Philippe Gerum
2010-11-11 15:46                                                                                                   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-11-12 15:36                                                                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-13 18:31                                                                                                       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix

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