From: Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud@free.fr>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] qemu-arm
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:02:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CE2AB07.9040209@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik56rw4yHfBWeDyu5ea4QKgVXekcA0HSOeL370N@mail.gmail.com>
Le 16/11/2010 15:49, Peter Maydell a ?crit :
> On 16 November 2010 13:54, Albert ARIBAUD<albert.aribaud@free.fr> wrote:
>>> Mostly these things
>>> don't cause a problem in practice, which is why they haven't
>>> been corrected yet.
>>
>> Thanks Peter for the clarification. I imagine that "in practice" can bear
>> different meanings depending on the practice -- for software like u-boot,
>> which is very low-level and can encounter issues such as a RAM controller
>> misconfiguration (or plain bad BAR setting, mind) addressing outside
>> physically available space, including writing to RO memory or fetching bad
>> code, is something we can see in practice, at least in the first times of a
>> board's bring up.
>
> Sure, but I imagine that for debugging that sort of thing it doesn't make
> a great deal of difference whether you discover it by getting a cpu
> abort, by having the core just go off into the weeds somewhere or by
> getting a fatal error message from qemu. So that was partly what I
> meant by "in practice" -- yes, it's a deviation from correct behaviour,
> but it's not really any more of an impediment to debugging than
> correctly modelled behaviour would be, once you know what qemu
> is doing wrong...
Understood. What I meant is that "in practice" with a real piece of HW,
we expect aborts or undefined so much that we actually handle them and
do a register dump the board's console, so not seeing this dump when
simulating an abort on the HW would thus somehow 'depart' from 'the
practice' as I know it. However:
> (Which is not to defend the current qemu behaviour so much as to
> try to explain why this particular bug isn't at the top of my todo list :-))
I do understand why it isn't, and as I said, I can happily live without
it as long as I know that the simulator differs from the HW in this
respect -- after all, if I *really* need it, I guess I can delve deep
into the qemu-arm source code. :)
> -- PMM
Amicalement,
--
Albert.
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-04 22:22 [U-Boot] [PATCH V4 1/2] arm926ejs: fix linker file for newer ld support Albert Aribaud
2010-11-04 22:22 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH V4 2/2] tx25: " Albert Aribaud
2010-11-04 22:27 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH V4 1/2] arm926ejs: " Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-09 13:49 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-05 8:38 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-11-05 9:04 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-09 18:24 ` Daniel Hobi
2010-11-09 18:47 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-09 18:55 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-09 19:30 ` Andreas Bießmann
2010-11-10 12:31 ` Daniel Hobi
2010-11-10 12:48 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-10 13:24 ` Daniel Hobi
2010-11-11 8:11 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-14 21:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-15 11:01 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-15 11:09 ` Andreas Bießmann
2010-11-15 11:43 ` Sebastien Carlier
2010-11-16 7:38 ` Andreas Bießmann
2010-11-15 11:13 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-15 11:49 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-15 11:55 ` Loïc Minier
2010-11-15 12:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-15 14:06 ` Loïc Minier
2010-11-15 14:29 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-15 15:09 ` Loïc Minier
2010-11-16 13:42 ` Peter Maydell
2010-11-16 13:54 ` [U-Boot] qemu-arm (was: [PATCH V4 1/2] arm926ejs: fix linker file for newer ld support) Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-16 14:49 ` Peter Maydell
2010-11-16 16:02 ` Albert ARIBAUD [this message]
2010-11-15 12:00 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH V4 1/2] arm926ejs: fix linker file for newer ld support Reinhard Meyer
2010-11-15 12:02 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-15 12:13 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-15 12:16 ` Bas Mevissen
2010-11-10 13:02 ` [U-Boot] Timer Statics (was: arm926ejs: fix linker file for newer ld support) Reinhard Meyer
2010-11-09 19:27 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH V4 1/2] arm926ejs: fix linker file for newer ld support Andreas Bießmann
2010-11-09 19:31 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-09 23:43 ` Eric Cooper
2010-11-10 7:53 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-10 14:20 ` Eric Cooper
2010-11-11 7:33 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-15 14:15 ` Daniel Hobi
2010-11-15 14:37 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-15 19:14 ` Eric Cooper
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