From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 2/4] Introduce a C++ wrapper for the kvm APIs
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:14:41 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CED4801.8040300@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CED463F.7080700@redhat.com>
On 11/24/2010 11:07 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 11/24/2010 07:02 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 06:56:52PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> > On 11/24/2010 06:52 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>> > >> Plus some magic glue. You can't say it is an ISA bridge. It's
>> > >> exactly what its spec says it is.
>> > >>
>> > >First thing my spec says is "Bridge Between the PCI Bus and ISA Bus"
>> >
>> > It's the first item in a list of features. Be serious.
>> >
>> I am serious. The fact that it provides IDE or kbd doesn't make this IDE
>> or kbd special. It means that it has gates that provide functionality of
>> those chips. Just like SoC really. IDE doesn't become part of ARM cpu
>> just because some SoC somewhere include them on the same silicon.
>
> They aren't special. They're just part of the PIIX3 device.
So based on the IRC discussion that pbrook and I have been having, you
can think of things like this:
class PIIX3 {
public:
Plug<I8042> i8042;
};
A plug allows conditional composition whereas the absence of a plug
means unconditional composition. There is a mechanism to name plugs and
you can have an i8042 factory to create the device and then
conditionally attach it to the plug.
This is fine even though I think it's unnecessary abstraction. What I
object to is introducing an artificial ISA bus layering.
A Plug<Type> is basically a Type * except it has some additional
features. It provides null-pointer dereference checking, provides a
marshalling interface, and supports the ability to be locked which
enables a device to enforce that plugging cannot happen after the device
is realized (power-on).
>> > When we do have a spec for something, we should implement it as the
>> > spec says, not according to our ideas of how it should be.
>> >
>> PIIX3 is composite device. It is not one device. To emulate it you need
>> to provide functionality of all devices included om PIIX3. Spec says
>> nothing about how it should be implemented.
>
> Right, we could (and probably should) implement it as
>
> class PIIX3 {
> private:
> class isa_bridge { .... };
> isa_bridge isa_bridge;
No, PIIX3 is an PCI-to-ISA bridge.
It's a fundamental part of the definition of it as a PCI device.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> i8042 kbc;
> ...
> }
>
> So the thing becomes just a glue layer for various components. But
> when pc.c says PIIX3, it gets what the spec says, not something else.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-24 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-24 10:52 [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 0/4] API test framework Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 1/4] Makefile: add support for C++ Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 2/4] Introduce a C++ wrapper for the kvm APIs Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 12:59 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-24 13:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 15:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 13:52 ` Mike Day
2010-11-24 16:12 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 2/4] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:21 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:10 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:12 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:14 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-11-24 16:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 16:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:04 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 18:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 18:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 18:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-25 8:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:40 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:51 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:06 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:17 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:28 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:36 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 18:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 19:29 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 19:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:43 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:45 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 18:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:03 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-28 12:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 22:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-28 22:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 23:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29 8:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29 13:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:29 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:44 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 11:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 13:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 14:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 16:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-29 10:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 10:52 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-29 11:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 13:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-25 16:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 10:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <4CF0CB9A.5060403@redhat.com>
2010-11-28 8:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 9:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 9:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 11:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 22:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29 9:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 11:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 14:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 9:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 3/4] Add support for calling a function in guest mode Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 14:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <4CF0CC26.8030407@redhat.com>
2010-11-28 8:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 4/4] Add sample test using the api test harness Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 14:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <4CF0CC4A.8070100@redhat.com>
2010-11-28 9:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 9:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-29 16:09 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 0/4] API test framework Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-01 10:38 ` Avi Kivity
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