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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 02/10] Add buffered_file_internal constant
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:44:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF52A09.5080201@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3lj4au609.fsf@trasno.mitica>

On 11/30/2010 10:32 AM, Juan Quintela wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin"<mst@redhat.com>  wrote:
>    
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 04:40:41PM +0100, Juan Quintela wrote:
>>      
>>> Basically our bitmap handling code is "exponential" on memory size,
>>>        
>> I didn't realize this. What makes it exponential?
>>      
> Well, 1st of all, it is "exponential" as you measure it.
>
> stalls by default are:
>
> 1-2GB: milliseconds
> 2-4GB: 100-200ms
> 4-8GB: 1s
> 64GB: 59s
> 400GB: 24m (yes, minutes)
>
> That sounds really exponential.
>    

How are you measuring stalls btw?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Now the other thing is the cache size.
>
> with 64GB of RAM, we basically have a 16MB bitmap size, i.e. we blow the
> cache each time that we run ram_save_live().
>
> This is one of the reasons why I don't want to walk the bitmap on
> ram_save_remaining().
>
> ram_save_remaining() is linear with memory size (previous my changes).
> ram_save_live is also linear on the memory size, so we are in a worse
> case of n^n  (notice that this is the worst case, we normally do much
> better n^2, n^3 or so).
>
> Add to this that we are blowing the caches with big amounts of memory
> (we don't do witch smaller sizes), and you can see that our behaviour is
> clearly exponential.
>
> As I need to fix them, I will work on them today/tomorrow.
>
> Later, Juan.
>    

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-01  4:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-23 23:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] Fix migration with lots of memory Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] Add spent time to migration Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] Add buffered_file_internal constant Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 10:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-24 10:52     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 11:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-24 11:13         ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 11:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]       ` <4CF46012.2060804@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30 11:56         ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 14:02           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 14:11             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-30 14:22               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 15:40             ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 16:10               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-30 16:32                 ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 16:44                   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-11-30 18:04                     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 18:54                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 19:15                         ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 20:23                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 20:56                             ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] Add printf debug to savevm Juan Quintela
     [not found]   ` <4CF45AB2.7050506@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30 10:36     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-30 22:40       ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-12-01  7:50         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] No need to iterate if we already are over the limit Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] KVM don't care about TLB handling Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] Only calculate expected_time for stage 2 Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] ram_save_remaining() returns an uint64_t Juan Quintela
     [not found]   ` <4CF45C0C.705@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30  7:21     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-30 13:44       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 14:38     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] Count nanoseconds with uint64_t not doubles Juan Quintela
2010-11-30  7:17   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]   ` <4CF45C5B.9080507@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30 14:40     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] Exit loop if we have been there too long Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 10:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-24 11:01     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 11:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-24 15:16         ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-24 15:59           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]           ` <4CF45E3F.4040609@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30  8:10             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-30 13:26             ` Juan Quintela
     [not found]   ` <4CF45D67.5010906@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30  7:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-30 13:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 13:47         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 13:58         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 13:58           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 14:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 14:17             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 14:27             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 14:27               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 14:50               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 14:50                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 12:40                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 12:40                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 17:43               ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 17:43                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-12-01  1:20               ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-12-01  1:20                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-12-01  1:52                 ` Juan Quintela
2010-12-01  1:52                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-12-01  2:22                   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-12-01  2:22                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-12-01 12:35                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 12:35                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 13:45                     ` Juan Quintela
2010-12-01 13:45                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-12-02  1:31                     ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-12-02  1:31                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-12-02  8:37                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02  8:37                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 14:12         ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-30 14:12           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-30 15:00           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 15:00             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 17:59             ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 17:59               ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] Maintaing number of dirty pages Juan Quintela
     [not found]   ` <4CF45DE0.8020701@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30 14:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-12-01 14:46       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 15:51         ` Juan Quintela
2010-12-01 15:55           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 16:25             ` Juan Quintela
2010-12-01 16:33               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 16:43                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 16:49                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 16:52                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 16:56                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 17:01                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 17:05                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 18:51                             ` Juan Quintela

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