From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41249 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PNpsF-0007Ue-Iw for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:49:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNps9-0001gP-Pb for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:49:43 -0500 Received: from mail-qy0-f180.google.com ([209.85.216.180]:61893) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNps9-0001g1-Mx for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:49:37 -0500 Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so8126048qyk.4 for ; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:49:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4CF67C9C.5000403@codemonkey.ws> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:49:32 -0600 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <411b3f89b6b79b429686bd1b1fa188ba55b6c6f7.1290552026.git.quintela@redhat.com> <4CF45DE0.8020701@codemonkey.ws> <4CF65FBB.3020406@redhat.com> <4CF66FEB.7030602@codemonkey.ws> <4CF678E0.9070904@codemonkey.ws> <4CF67B19.9000308@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4CF67B19.9000308@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 10/10] Maintaing number of dirty pages List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela On 12/01/2010 10:43 AM, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 12/01/2010 06:33 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >>>> BTW, by this logic, even a 1-byte dirty bitmap is only 16mb which can >>>> be read in less than 16ms so where is the reported 24 minute stall >>>> coming from? >>> a) we read the bitmap more than once >> >> Not in a single iteration which is what the "stall" would consist of. >> >>> b) the 1ms is based on "we read" it with longs and optimized, just now >>> we have to read it by byte and inside the byte. >> >> Byte accesses verse long access doesn't turn 16ms into 24 minutes. > > We need actual measurements instead of speculations. Yes, I agree 100%. I think the place to start is what I suggested in a previous note in this thread, we need to measure actual stall time in the guest. Regards, Anthony Liguori