From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] qemu-kvm: response to SIGUSR1 to start/stop a VCPU (v2)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:33:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF7BC54.2080909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101202152716.GA16411@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 12/02/2010 05:27 PM, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> > >Even that would require some precaution in directed yield to ensure that it
> > >doesn't unduly inflate vruntime of target, hurting fairness for other guests on
> > >same cpu as target (example guest code that can lead to this situation
> > >below):
> > >
> > >vcpu0: vcpu1:
> > >
> > > spinlock(A);
> > >
> > >spinlock(A);
> > >
> > > while(1)
> > > ;
> > >
> > > spin_unlock(A);
> >
> > directed yield should preserve the invariant that sum(vruntime) does
> > not change.
>
> Hmm don't think I understand this invariant sum() part. Lets take a simple
> example as below:
>
>
> p0 -> A0 B0 A1
>
> p1 -> B1 C0 C1
>
> A/B/C are VMs and A0 etc are virtual cpus. p0/1 are physical cpus
>
> Let's say A0/A1 hit AB-BA spin-deadlock (which one can write in userspace
> delibrately). When A0 spins and exits (due to PLE) what does its directed yield
> do? Going by your statement, it can put target before current, leading to
> perhaps this arrangement in runqueue:
>
> p0 -> A1 B0 A0
>
> Now A1 spins and wants to do a directed yield back to A0, leading to :
>
> p0 -> A0 B0 A1
>
> This can go back and forth, starving B0 (iow leading to some sort of DoS
> attack).
>
> Where does the "invariant sum" part of directed yield kick in to avoid such
> nastiness?
A0 and A1's vruntime will keep growing, eventually B will become
leftmost and become runnable (assuming leftmost == min vruntime, not
sure what the terminology is).
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-02 15:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-23 16:49 [PATCH] qemu-kvm: response to SIGUSR1 to start/stop a VCPU (v2) Anthony Liguori
2010-11-23 19:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-11-23 21:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-23 23:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-24 1:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 2:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-24 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 12:37 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 12:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 16:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 16:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 17:17 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-01 17:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 17:26 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-01 19:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 19:24 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-01 19:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 19:42 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-01 19:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-02 9:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 17:46 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-01 17:29 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 17:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 18:00 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 19:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-02 9:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 11:47 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:22 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 13:13 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 13:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 15:27 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 15:28 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 15:33 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-12-02 15:44 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 9:14 ` Avi Kivity
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