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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] qemu-kvm: response to SIGUSR1 to start/stop a VCPU (v2)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:33:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF7BC54.2080909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101202152716.GA16411@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 12/02/2010 05:27 PM, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> >  >Even that would require some precaution in directed yield to ensure that it
> >  >doesn't unduly inflate vruntime of target, hurting fairness for other guests on
> >  >same cpu as target (example guest code that can lead to this situation
> >  >below):
> >  >
> >  >vcpu0:				vcpu1:
> >  >
> >  >				spinlock(A);
> >  >
> >  >spinlock(A);
> >  >
> >  >                          	while(1)
> >  >				;
> >  >
> >  >			 	spin_unlock(A);
> >
> >  directed yield should preserve the invariant that sum(vruntime) does
> >  not change.
>
> Hmm don't think I understand this invariant sum() part. Lets take a simple
> example as below:
>
>
> p0	->  A0 B0 A1
>
> p1	->  B1 C0 C1
>
> A/B/C are VMs and A0 etc are virtual cpus. p0/1 are physical cpus
>
> Let's say A0/A1 hit AB-BA spin-deadlock (which one can write in userspace
> delibrately). When A0 spins and exits (due to PLE) what does its directed yield
> do? Going by your statement, it can put target before current, leading to
> perhaps this arrangement in runqueue:
>
> p0	->  A1 B0 A0
>
> Now A1 spins and wants to do a directed yield back to A0, leading to :
>
> p0	->  A0 B0 A1
>
> This can go back and forth, starving B0 (iow leading to some sort of DoS
> attack).
>
> Where does the "invariant sum" part of directed yield kick in to avoid such
> nastiness?

A0 and A1's vruntime will keep growing, eventually B will become 
leftmost and become runnable (assuming leftmost == min vruntime, not 
sure what the terminology is).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-02 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-23 16:49 [PATCH] qemu-kvm: response to SIGUSR1 to start/stop a VCPU (v2) Anthony Liguori
2010-11-23 19:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-11-23 21:46   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-23 23:43     ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-24  1:15       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24  2:08         ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-24  8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 13:58   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:23     ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 12:37       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 12:56         ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 16:12           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 16:25             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 17:17               ` Chris Wright
2010-12-01 17:22                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 17:26                   ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-01 19:07                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 19:24                       ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-01 19:35                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 19:42                           ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-01 19:47                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-02  9:07                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 17:46                   ` Chris Wright
2010-12-01 17:29               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 17:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 18:00                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 19:09                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-02  9:17                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 11:47                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:22                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:41                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 13:13                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 13:49                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 15:27                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 15:28                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 15:33                                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-12-02 15:44                                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:19                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:42                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02  9:14                 ` Avi Kivity

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