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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] directed yield for Pause Loop Exiting
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:02:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CFB8D50.6050109@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101202224122.GT10050@sequoia.sous-sol.org>

On 12/03/2010 12:41 AM, Chris Wright wrote:
> * Rik van Riel (riel@redhat.com) wrote:
> >  When running SMP virtual machines, it is possible for one VCPU to be
> >  spinning on a spinlock, while the VCPU that holds the spinlock is not
> >  currently running, because the host scheduler preempted it to run
> >  something else.
> >
> >  Both Intel and AMD CPUs have a feature that detects when a virtual
> >  CPU is spinning on a lock and will trap to the host.
> >
> >  The current KVM code sleeps for a bit whenever that happens, which
> >  results in eg. a 64 VCPU Windows guest taking forever and a bit to
> >  boot up.  This is because the VCPU holding the lock is actually
> >  running and not sleeping, so the pause is counter-productive.
>
> Seems like simply increasing the spin window help in that case?  Or is
> it just too contended a lock (I think they use mcs locks, so I can see a
> single wrong sleep causing real contention problems).

It may, but that just pushes the problem to a more contended lock or to 
a higher vcpu count.  We want something that works after PLE threshold 
tuning has failed.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-05 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-02 19:41 [RFC PATCH 0/3] directed yield for Pause Loop Exiting Rik van Riel
2010-12-02 19:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] kvm: keep track of which task is running a KVM vcpu Rik van Riel
2010-12-03  1:18   ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 14:50     ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 15:55       ` Chris Wright
2010-12-05 12:40       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 12:17   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 14:16     ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-05 12:59       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 19:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] sched: add yield_to function Rik van Riel
2010-12-03  0:50   ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 18:27     ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 19:30       ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 21:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-03  5:54   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 13:46     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 14:45       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 14:48         ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 15:09           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 15:35             ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 16:20               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:09                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 17:29                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:33                     ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 17:45                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 20:05               ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 21:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-03 13:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-03 13:30     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 14:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-03 14:06         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 14:10           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 21:23             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-04 13:02               ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-10  4:34           ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-10  8:39             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-10 14:55               ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-08 17:55     ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-08 20:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 20:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 22:59         ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-02 19:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] kvm: use yield_to instead of sleep in kvm_vcpu_on_spin Rik van Riel
2010-12-03  2:24   ` Chris Wright
2010-12-05 12:58     ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-05 12:56   ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-08 22:38     ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-09 10:28       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-09 17:07         ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-11  7:27           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 22:41 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] directed yield for Pause Loop Exiting Chris Wright
2010-12-05 13:02   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-12-10  5:03 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-10 14:54   ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-11  7:31   ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-11 13:57     ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-13 11:57       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13 12:39         ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-13 12:42           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13 17:02       ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-14  9:25         ` Balbir Singh

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