From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
sds@tycho.nsa.gov, jmorris@namei.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
hch@lst.de, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] fs/vfs/security: pass last path component to LSM on inode creation
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 08:56:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CFE6748.8050803@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiniPUa06wh0YHTQpZWL316dofxr9CrX-1ecgNS7@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/7/2010 8:11 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
>> One of the concerns that has traditionally been raised when new
>> LSM hooks or changes to existing hooks are proposed is that of
>> generality. I can think of a number of ways in which the final
>> component of a pathname could be used to make access control
>> decisions, but I would not expect to be using them myself. Who
>> else might you expect to make use of this LSM "enhancement", or
>> is this something that only SELinux is ever going to want? Is
>> the component something the LSM should be providing in general,
>> or is this the only case in which it makes sense?
> The existing inode_init_security hook is useful for any security
> module that maintains security attributes on inodes (although when it
> was added, it was only first used by SELinux as that was the only such
> security module), and adding the last component name as a further
> input argument is a general change that could benefit any such
> security module that wants to use that information in determining the
> correct attribute value for the new inode. The fact that there are
> only two such modules that implement the hook today (SELinux and
> Smack), and that you chose to not use the argument for Smack doesn't
> lessen its generality. If you have an alternative parameter that
> would be more general that you would like to pass to the hook that
> would enable SELinux to do what it wants and provide benefit to Smack,
> then feel free to suggest it.
Let's assume for the moment that no one has a significant objection
to adding the component name to inode_init_security. I am not
suggesting that what gets passed to inode_init_security is
insufficiently general. I am asking if there are other hooks that
also ought to have the component name as one of their parameters.
Yes, I understand the concept of "if it ain't broke ...", and that
may suffice at this point, and if not the fact that no one would be
using the component name in those other hooks definitely would. I
expect that when someone comes along with a new LSM that does access
controls based on the final component* they aren't going to suffer
unnecessary resistance from the SELinux community as they add the
component name as a parameter to other hooks.
----
* For example, only files suffixed with ".exe" can be executed and
only files suffixed with ".so" can be mmapped.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-07 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-03 21:45 [RFC PATCH 1/2] fs/vfs/security: pass last path component to LSM on inode creation Eric Paris
2010-12-03 21:45 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] SELinux: Use dentry name in new object labeling Eric Paris
2010-12-04 4:20 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] fs/vfs/security: pass last path component to LSM on inode creation Casey Schaufler
2010-12-04 21:34 ` Eric Paris
2010-12-05 7:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2010-12-06 14:32 ` Daniel J Walsh
2010-12-06 23:32 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-12-07 13:43 ` Stephen Smalley
2010-12-07 14:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2010-12-07 16:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2010-12-07 16:56 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2010-12-07 17:34 ` Stephen Smalley
2010-12-07 18:00 ` Casey Schaufler
2010-12-08 14:25 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-12-08 14:49 ` Casey Schaufler
2010-12-08 19:04 ` Daniel J Walsh
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