From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>
Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
abeekhof@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ryanh@us.ibm.com,
Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH v5 07/21] virtagent: add va.getfile RPC
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:04:00 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D014440.6050400@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1291905624.2260.2.camel@aglitke>
On 12/09/2010 08:40 AM, Adam Litke wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 20:19 +0100, Jes Sorensen wrote:
>> On 12/07/10 17:00, Adam Litke wrote:
>>> Hi Jes, you raise some good points and pitfalls with the current getfile
>>> approach. I've been thinking about an alternative and am wondering what
>>> you (and others) think...
>>>
>>> First off, I think we should switch to a copyfile() API that allows us
>>> to avoid presenting the file contents to the user. Neither the human
>>> monitor nor the control monitor are designed to be file pagers. Let the
>>> user decide how to consume the data once it has been transferred. Now
>>> we don't need to care if the file is binary or text.
>>>
>>> The virtagent RPC protocol is bi-directional and supports asynchronous
>>> events. We can use these to implement a better copyfile RPC that can
>>> transfer larger files without wasting memory. The host issues a
>>> copyfile(<guest-path>,<host-path>) RPC. The immediate result of this
>>> call will indicate whether the guest is able to initiate the transfer.
>>> The guest will generate a series of events (<offset>,<size>,<payload>)
>>> until the entire contents has been transferred. The host and guest
>>> could negotiate the chunk size if necessary. Once the transfer is
>>> complete, the guest sends a final event to indicate this (<file-size>,
>>> 0).
>>>
>>> This interface could be integrated into the monitor with a pair of
>>> commands (va_copyfile and info va_copyfile), the former used to initiate
>>> transfers and the latter to check on the status.
>>>
>>> Thoughts on this?
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> This sounds a lot safer than the current approach. Intuitively I would
>> think it should be the host controlling the copy, but otherwise it
>> sounds good. Or is there a reason why the guest should control it?
>
> Actually, a host-controlled interface would be both simpler to implement
> (on both ends) and would concentrate control in the host (which is what
> we probably want anyway).
>
I also like the host-controlled mechanism. I think the difficulty is
about the same either way though. Both would require an FD to be kept
open, and some mechanism to read/seek in chunks and then send it back.
I don't think this should replace the underlying RPC for viewfile
however. I'd much rather it be an additional RPC, and we just put strict
limits on the size of files viewfile/getfile can handle and make it
clear that it is intended for quickly viewing text. I'll rename the
getfile RPC to viewfile to make this a bit clearer as well.
>> I think it is vital that we do it in a way where a copy cannot blow
>> QEMU's memory consumption out of the water, but the approach you suggest
>> seems to take care of that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jes
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-09 21:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-03 18:03 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 00/21] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 01/21] Move code related to fd handlers into utility functions Michael Roth
2010-12-07 13:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 14:48 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 15:02 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-08 9:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-08 9:17 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-08 9:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-08 9:29 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-08 14:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 02/21] Add qemu_set_fd_handler() wrappers to qemu-tools.c Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 03/21] virtagent: common code for managing client/server rpc jobs Michael Roth
2010-12-06 21:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-06 22:15 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-06 21:57 ` Adam Litke
2010-12-06 22:24 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 13:38 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 15:02 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 04/21] virtagent: transport definitions and job callbacks Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-06 22:34 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 13:44 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 17:19 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-08 19:16 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 05/21] virtagent: base client definitions Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 06/21] virtagent: base server definitions Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 07/21] virtagent: add va.getfile RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-06 23:23 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:18 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 16:00 ` Adam Litke
2010-12-08 19:19 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-09 14:40 ` Adam Litke
2010-12-09 21:04 ` Michael Roth [this message]
2010-12-10 6:38 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 08/21] virtagent: add agent_viewfile qmp/hmp command Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-06 23:20 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:09 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:26 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-09 21:12 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-10 6:43 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-10 17:09 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-13 8:29 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 09/21] virtagent: add va.getdmesg RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-07 14:37 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 17:32 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-08 19:22 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-09 21:15 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-10 6:46 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 10/21] virtagent: add agent_viewdmesg qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 11/21] virtagent: add va.shutdown RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 12/21] virtagent: add agent_shutdown qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 13/21] virtagent: add va.ping RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 14/21] virtagent: add agent_ping qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 15/21] virtagent: add agent_capabilities " Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 16/21] virtagent: add client capabilities init function Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 17/21] virtagent: add va.hello RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 18/21] virtagent: add "hello" notification function for guest agent Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 19/21] virtagent: add virtagent guest daemon Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 20/21] virtagent: integrate virtagent server/client via chardev Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 21/21] virtagent: various bits to build QEMU with virtagent Michael Roth
2010-12-07 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH v5 00/21] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 14:29 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-08 10:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-09 20:45 ` Michael Roth
2010-12-09 21:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-10 9:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-10 10:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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