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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC -v2 PATCH 2/3] sched: add yield_to function
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:09:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D0B7D24.5060207@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1292569018.7772.75.camel@marge.simson.net>

On 12/17/2010 08:56 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> >  Surely that makes it a reasonable idea to call yield, and
> >  get one of the other tasks on the current CPU running for
> >  a bit?
>
> There's nothing wrong with trying to give up the cpu.  It's the concept
> of a cross cpu yield_to() that I find mighty strange.

What's so strange about it?  From a high level there are N runnable 
tasks contending for M cpus.  If task X really needs task Y to run, what 
does it matter if task Y last ran on the same cpu as task X or not?

Do I correctly read between the lines that CFS maintains complete 
fairness only on a cpu, but not globally?  I hope I'm wrong, but

   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  P COMMAND
  8648 avi       20   0  106m 1092  148 R 80.4  0.0   0:26.03 1 bash
  8656 avi       20   0  106m 1080  136 R 47.3  0.0   0:14.73 0 bash
  8652 avi       20   0  106m 1080  136 R 47.0  0.0   0:15.36 0 bash

doesn't look too good (three infinite loops in bash started at the 
roughly same time)

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-17 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-14  3:44 [RFC -v2 PATCH 0/3] directed yield for Pause Loop Exiting Rik van Riel
2010-12-14  3:45 ` [RFC -v2 PATCH 1/3] kvm: keep track of which task is running a KVM vcpu Rik van Riel
2010-12-14  3:46 ` [RFC -v2 PATCH 2/3] sched: add yield_to function Rik van Riel
2010-12-14  6:08   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-14 10:24     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-14 11:03       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-14 11:26         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-14 12:47           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-16 19:49     ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-17  6:56       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-17  7:15         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-18 17:08           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-18 19:13             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-19  6:08               ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-20 15:40           ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-20 16:04             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-28  5:54               ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-28  6:08                 ` Gene Heskett
2010-12-28  6:16                   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-28 16:18                     ` Gene Heskett
2010-12-28 22:34                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-17 15:09         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-12-17 19:51           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-18 17:02             ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-18 19:06               ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-19  6:21                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-19 10:05                   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-19  9:19                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-19 11:18                       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-20  8:39                       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-20  8:45                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-20  8:55                           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-20  9:03                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-20  9:30                               ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-20  9:46                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-20 10:33                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-20 10:39                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-20 10:46                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-20 10:49                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-20 10:49                                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-20 10:50                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-20 11:06                                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-20 11:06                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 12:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-18 14:50     ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-14  3:48 ` [RFC -v2 PATCH 3/3] kvm: use yield_to instead of sleep in kvm_vcpu_on_spin Rik van Riel

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