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From: Jabe <jabe.chapman-9AbUPqfR1/2XDw4h08c5KA@public.gmane.org>
To: richard.croucher-jNDFPZUTrfRJpuwtbJ71GdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org
Cc: Richard Croucher
	<richard-jNDFPZUTrfRJpuwtbJ71GdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	'Ali Ayoub'
	<ali-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>,
	'Christoph Lameter' <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	'linux-rdma' <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	'sebastien dugue' <sebastien.dugue-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>,
	'OF EWG' <ewg-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [ewg] IPoIB to Ethernet routing performance
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:51:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D187DB1.5020005@shiftmail.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <018d01cba4eb$aa507320$fef15960$@com>

On 12/26/2010 11:57 AM, Richard Croucher wrote:
> The vNIC driver only works when you have Ethernet/InfiniBand hardware
> gateways in your environment.   It is useful when you have external hosts to
> communicate with which do not have direct InfiniBand connectivity.
> IPoIB is still heavily used in these environments to provide TCP/IP
> connectivity within the InfiniBand fabric.
> The primary Use Case for vNICs is probably for virtualization servers, so
> that individual Guests can be presented with a virtual Ethernet NIC and do
> not lead to load any InfiniBand drivers.  Only the hypervisor needs to have
> the InfiniBand software stack loaded.
> I've also applied vNICs in the Financial Services arena, for connectivity to
> external TCP/IP services but there the IPoIB gateway function is arguably
> more useful.
>
> The whole vNIC arena is complicated by different, incompatible
> implementations from each of Qlogic and Mellanox.
>
> Richard
>    


Richard, with your explanation I understand why vNIC / EoIB is used in 
the case you cite, but I don't understand why it is NOT used in the 
other cases (like Ali says).

I can *guess* it's probably because with a virtual ethernet fabric you 
have to do all IP stack in software, probably without even having the 
stateless offloads (so it would be a performance reason). Is that the 
reason?

Thank you
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-27 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-06 10:24 IPoIB to Ethernet routing performance sebastien dugue
     [not found] ` <20101206112454.76bb85f1-xRPE6/W2vR9iM9LT7/dT9zWMkbuR3peG@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 10:49   ` Richard Croucher
2010-12-06 11:40     ` [ewg] " sebastien dugue
     [not found]       ` <20101206124023.025c2f88-xRPE6/W2vR9iM9LT7/dT9zWMkbuR3peG@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 12:08         ` Richard Croucher
2010-12-06 13:05           ` sebastien dugue
     [not found]             ` <20101206140505.20cfc9e2-xRPE6/W2vR9iM9LT7/dT9zWMkbuR3peG@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-09 23:46               ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1012091745070.29367-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-26  7:43                   ` Ali Ayoub
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTi=2-FJtJCY0+79wyXRszwrhRwQStDTNjRCjr66F-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-26 10:57                       ` Richard Croucher
2010-12-27 11:51                         ` Jabe [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <4D187DB1.5020005-9AbUPqfR1/2XDw4h08c5KA@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-30 17:37                             ` Richard Croucher
2010-12-28  0:06                         ` Ali Ayoub
     [not found]                           ` <AANLkTi=ausgOuEMRe622dNRzVyhN3pxPWeTAJiJihssW-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-28 15:30                             ` Reeted
     [not found]                               ` <4D1A02A8.1060104-9AbUPqfR1/2XDw4h08c5KA@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29 15:18                                 ` Tziporet Koren
2011-01-03 22:33                       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-07 14:42           ` Or Gerlitz
2010-12-06 20:47   ` Jabe
     [not found]     ` <4CFD4BEE.5070205-9AbUPqfR1/2XDw4h08c5KA@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 21:27       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20101206212759.GB16788-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-07  7:39           ` sebastien dugue
     [not found]             ` <20101207083911.2ab47a59-xRPE6/W2vR9iM9LT7/dT9zWMkbuR3peG@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-07 10:02               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                 ` <4CFE0638.2040105-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-07 10:27                   ` sebastien dugue
     [not found]                     ` <20101207112739.0c95db46-xRPE6/W2vR9iM9LT7/dT9zWMkbuR3peG@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-07 10:33                       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                         ` <4CFE0D7C.4020904-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-07 11:48                           ` sebastien dugue
     [not found]                             ` <20101207124805.1fede78f-xRPE6/W2vR9iM9LT7/dT9zWMkbuR3peG@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-07 12:32                               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                 ` <4CFE2953.2020807-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-07 13:19                                   ` sebastien dugue
2010-12-07 13:01                               ` Hiroyuki Sato
     [not found]                                 ` <AANLkTik2XaM6qyUUc+uzYCzKL+zKbN5kHz2Kf8So8arC-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-07 13:25                                   ` sebastien dugue
2010-12-13 16:02           ` Jabe
     [not found]             ` <4D06438C.9040307-9AbUPqfR1/2XDw4h08c5KA@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 16:35               ` [ewg] " Richard Croucher
2010-12-07  7:36       ` sebastien dugue

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