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From: Christian Stroetmann <stroetmann@ontolinux.com>
To: Olaf van der Spek <olafvdspek@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Atomic non-durable file write API
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:30:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D18E94C.3080908@ontolinux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMSxGTEcTbsx8MUYVTLhYRxrdDFQsi6Toer_h9@mail.gmail.com>

On the 27.12.2010 20:07, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Christian Stroetmann
> <stroetmann@ontolinux.com>  wrote:
>>> Like I've said dozens of times, this is not about full DB functionality.
>>> Why do you keep making false analogies?
>> The analogy is not so wrong. The concepts atomicity and abort/rollback your
>> are talking about are also concepts of the field of database management
>> systems (DBMSs). And once you have established the Atomicity, which is the A
>> of the principle ACID of DBMSs, you have the basis for establishing the
>> rest, the CID.
>>
>> And you even went further into this DBMS direction by letting down the
>> requirement of non-durability.
> Of course the concepts are the same. That doesn't mean the analogy is valid.

Btw.: There is even no analogy: "The concepts are the same".

>>> Still waiting on any hint for why that performance loss would happen.
>> > From my point of view, the loss of performance depends on what is
>> benchmarked in which way.
> Maybe, but still no indication of why.

If you have a solution, then you really should show other persons the 
working source code.
For me speaking: I like such technologies and I'm also interested in 
your attempts.

> Olaf

Christian Stroetmann

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-27 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-29 12:37 Atomic non-durable file write API Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-01 10:27 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-06 16:45 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-06 17:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2010-12-09 12:03 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-16 12:22   ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-16 20:11     ` Ric Wheeler
2010-12-18 22:15       ` Calvin Walton
2010-12-19 16:39         ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-23 15:49           ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-23 21:51             ` Neil Brown
2010-12-23 22:22               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-24  0:30                 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-24  0:48                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-24  1:00                     ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-24  9:51                       ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-24 11:14                         ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-24 11:25                           ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-25  3:15                           ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-25 10:41                             ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-25 11:33                               ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-25 15:24                                 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-25 17:25                                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-26 15:08                                     ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 15:55                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-12-26 16:02                                         ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 16:27                                           ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-12-26 18:26                                             ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 16:43                                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-26 18:51                                         ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 22:10                                           ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-27  0:30                                             ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-27  1:04                                               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-27  1:30                                                 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-27  2:53                                                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-27 10:21                                             ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-27 11:07                                               ` Marco Stornelli
2010-12-27 15:30                                               ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-27 19:07                                                 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-27 19:30                                                   ` Christian Stroetmann [this message]
2010-12-28 17:22                                                     ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 20:59                                                       ` Neil Brown
2010-12-28 22:00                                                         ` Greg Freemyer
2010-12-28 22:06                                                           ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 22:15                                                             ` Greg Freemyer
2010-12-28 22:28                                                               ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 22:35                                                               ` Neil Brown
2010-12-29 11:05                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-28 22:10                                                         ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 22:31                                                           ` Neil Brown
2010-12-28 22:54                                                             ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 23:42                                                               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-29  9:09                                                                 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-29 15:30                                                               ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-29 15:41                                                                 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-29 16:30                                                                   ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-29 17:14                                                                     ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-30  0:50                                                                       ` Neil Brown
2011-01-07 14:23                                                                         ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-27  4:12                                           ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-27 11:48                                             ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-27 12:43                                               ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28  0:45                                               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-24 11:21                         ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-24 11:17               ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-24 11:29                 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-24 11:30                   ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-25 21:40                 ` Neil Brown
2010-12-23 22:43             ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-23 22:47               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-26  9:59                 ` Amir Goldstein
2010-12-26 15:23                   ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 16:52                     ` Nick Piggin

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