From: Rob Landley <rlandley@parallels.com>
To: Daniel Stodden <daniel.stodden@citrix.com>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Cache flush question.
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 01:33:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D257054.8080807@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1294269347.29719.1673.camel@agari.van.xensource.com>
On 01/05/2011 05:15 PM, Daniel Stodden wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 09:32 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 00:44 -0800, Daniel Stodden wrote:
>>> Hi anyone.
>>>
>>> If somebody's got a sec to enlighten me, there's some phenomenon I
>>> recently came across and found somewhat counterintuitive first.
>>>
>>> Whenever I
>>>
>>> 1. Dirty a bunch of pages backed by an NFS mount on some server.
>>>
>>> 2. Block the traffic with iptables (TCP, assuming that mattered).
>>> Still plenty of writeback pending.
>>>
>>> 3. Sync
>>>
>>> I see #3 drive the dirty count in /proc/meminfo drop back to
>>> almost-zero, immediately. The sync itself blocks, though.
>>>
>>> So the pages are called clean the moment the write got queued, not
>>> acked? Leaving the rest just to retransmits by the socket then? Is this
>>> just done so because one can, or would that order rather matter for
>>> consistency?
>>
>> Take a look at the 'Writeback:' count, which should turn non-zero when
>> you hit #3.
>>
>> The VM allows pages to be either dirty or in writeback, but not both at
>> the same time. This is not NFS-specific. The same rule applies to local
>> filesystems.
>
> Ah. That explains everything. Actually a question then, thanks for the
> clarification :)
>
> Rob Landley's comment regarding tx queue size somewhat made a good point
> too.
Not nearly as good as I thought at the time.
> But, given the rates I see, this queues mostly cache pages on the
> transport, not copies, right?
Easy enough to tell: there's a "Writeback" field in /proc/meminfo. Add
'em up and see what's missing.
Rob
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-06 7:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-04 8:44 Cache flush question Daniel Stodden
2011-01-04 14:00 ` Rob Landley
2011-01-04 14:32 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 23:15 ` Daniel Stodden
2011-01-06 7:33 ` Rob Landley [this message]
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