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From: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] PCI: tune up ICH4 quirk for broken BIOSes
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 10:58:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D283529.2090909@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201101071716.38220.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>

On 01/08/2011 01:16 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Friday, January 07, 2011 04:29:00 pm Jiri Slaby wrote:
>> On 01/08/2011 12:03 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> On Friday, January 07, 2011 01:44:35 pm Jiri Slaby wrote:
>>>> On 01/06/2011 08:24 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>>> Theoretically, ACPI tells us about the GPIO/TCO/etc. regions in a
>>>>> generic way via namespace devices or something in the static tables.
>>>>> Is that generic information missing, or is it there and Linux is
>>>>> ignoring it?  If we're ignoring it, I'd rather fix that.
>>>>
>>>> It works for most boxes I would say. Try to google for "claimed by ICH4
>>>> ACPI/GPIO/TCO", it reports sane ranges like 0400-047f or 4000-407f.
>>>
>>> My point is that BIOS should be telling the OS about GPIO/TCO/etc.
>>> regions via an ACPI mechanism, and, ideally, we would use that rather
>>> than reading the address out of chipset-dependent registers.
>>>
>>> Even though PMBASE says the ACPI registers occupy 128 bytes from
>>> 0x100-0x17f, it's likely there's no actual conflict between the
>>> last 16 bytes and the IDE device.
>>
>> I wouldn't say so. According to the datasheet 0x60-0x7f of the space
>> (i.e. 0x160-0x17f here) is for TCO registers. There:
>> 0x10 -- Software IRQ Generation Register (i.e. 0x170)
>> 0x11-0x1f -- reserved (0x171-0x17f)
>>
>> So at least 0x170 should be conflicting. Unless TCO is unused/disabled
>> and not mapped there at all. May be that the case?
> 
> Maybe.  All your patch does is avoid reserving this 0x100-0x1f7
> region; it doesn't actually *move* anything.  And the IDE device
> apparently works at the 0x170 compatibility address.  So the
> ICH ACPI stuff is still at 0x100-0x17f, so apparently they don't
> conflict or maybe the ICH ACPI stuff is disabled.  If the box
> doesn't even have ACPI, I suppose there would be no reason to
> have the ACPI registers enabled.  Is there something in ICH
> that tells us whether they're enabled?

Hmm, there is:
bit 4: ACPI Enable (ACPI_EN) — R/W.
  0 = Disable.
  1 = Decode of the I/O range pointed to by the ACPI Base register is
enabled, and the ACPI power management function is enabled. Note that
the APM power management ranges (B2/B3h) are always enabled and are not
affected by this bit.

at 0x44 in the bridge conf space. So we should definitely check the value.

I don't have the actual value in that register when ACPI is disabled in
BIOS. From the run where acpi=off was passed to the kernel, there is
0x10 (i.e. ACPI_EN=1). However I don't know whether ACPI was disabled in
BIOS at that time.

>>> ACPI probably reports this region via the FADT (the GPE PM register
>>> blocks) and possibly a PNP0C02 device.  These will probably report
>>> something that doesn't conflict with the legacy IDE ports, i.e., a
>>> subset of the 0x100-0x17f range.
>>>
>>> Ooooh, I notice in the bugzilla that something's wrong with SMBIOS
>>> (comment 29) and ACPI is disabled because we couldn't find the
>>> RSDP (dmesg in comment 27).  What sort of machine is this, anyway?
>>> We didn't find PNPBIOS, either.
>>
>> Hmm, it looks like some old crap. What exact information you would like
>> to know? I've just asked if ACPI is not disabled in BIOS. There should
>> be no machine without ACPI running still in the 21st century, I think.
> 
> I'm just wondering if the machine actually does have ACPI, but
> there's some Linux problem related to finding the tables.  If it's
> really old enough, that wouldn't be so surprising, but I see USB
> and gigabit NIC hardware, so it's not truly ancient.

The box is:
http://www.xembedded.com/content/vme/processors/xvme-690.php
and has ACPI, but the user disabled ACPI (I don't know why yet).

thanks,
-- 
js

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-08  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-06 15:17 [PATCH 1/1] PCI: tune up ICH4 quirk for broken BIOSes Jiri Slaby
2011-01-06 19:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2011-01-07 20:44   ` Jiri Slaby
2011-01-07 22:37     ` Jesse Barnes
2011-01-07 23:13       ` Jiri Slaby
2011-01-07 23:03     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2011-01-07 23:29       ` Jiri Slaby
2011-01-08  0:16         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2011-01-08  9:58           ` Jiri Slaby [this message]
2011-01-10 18:40             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2011-01-13 10:07               ` Jiri Slaby
2011-01-13 10:07                 ` Jiri Slaby
2011-01-13 23:19                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2011-01-14  0:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-14 10:31                     ` Jiri Slaby
2011-01-14 10:32                       ` [PATCH 1/2] PCI: add more checking to ICH region quirks Jiri Slaby
2011-01-14 10:32                       ` [PATCH option B 2/2] PCI: do not create quirk I/O regions below PCIBIOS_MIN_IO for ICH Jiri Slaby
2011-02-11 12:09                         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-02-11 14:16                           ` Jiri Slaby
2011-01-14 10:32                       ` [PATCH option A 2/2] PCI: do not create quirk I/O regions below PCIBIOS_MIN_IO Jiri Slaby
2011-01-14 16:10                       ` [PATCH 1/1] PCI: tune up ICH4 quirk for broken BIOSes Bjorn Helgaas
2011-01-15 15:39                         ` Robert Hancock
2011-02-08  9:55                         ` Jiri Slaby
2011-02-08 21:20                           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-02-11 10:32                             ` Jiri Slaby

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