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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ddutile@redhat.com" <ddutile@redhat.com>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"avi@redhat.com" <avi@redhat.com>,
	"chrisw@redhat.com" <chrisw@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Expose available KVM free memory slot count to help avoid aborts
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:16:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D3D89B1.30300@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110124093241.GA28654@amt.cnet>

On 2011-01-24 10:32, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 04:48:02PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
>> When doing device assignment, we use cpu_register_physical_memory() to
>> directly map the qemu mmap of the device resource into the address
>> space of the guest.  The unadvertised feature of the register physical
>> memory code path on kvm, at least for this type of mapping, is that it
>> needs to allocate an index from a small, fixed array of memory slots.
>> Even better, if it can't get an index, the code aborts deep in the
>> kvm specific bits, preventing the caller from having a chance to
>> recover.
>>
>> It's really easy to hit this by hot adding too many assigned devices
>> to a guest (pretty easy to hit with too many devices at instantiation
>> time too, but the abort is slightly more bearable there).
>>
>> I'm assuming it's pretty difficult to make the memory slot array
>> dynamically sized.  If that's not the case, please let me know as
>> that would be a much better solution.
> 
> Its not difficult to either increase the maximum number (defined as
> 32 now in both qemu and kernel) of static slots, or support dynamic
> increases, if it turns out to be a performance issue.

Static limits are waiting to be hit again, just a bit later.

I would start thinking about a tree search as well because iterating
over all slots won't get faster over the time.

> 
> But you'd probably want to fix the abort for currently supported kernels
> anyway.

Jep. Depending on how soon we have smarter solution in the kernel, this
fix may vary in pragmatism.

> 
>> I'm not terribly happy with the solution in this series, it doesn't
>> provide any guarantees whether a cpu_register_physical_memory() will
>> succeed, only slightly better educated guesses.
>>
>> Are there better ideas how we could solve this?  Thanks,
> 
> Why can't cpu_register_physical_memory() return an error so you can
> fallback to slow mode or cancel device insertion?
> 

Doesn't that registration happens much later than the call to
pci_register_bar? In any case, this will require significantly more
invasive work (but it would be much nicer if possible, no question).

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-24 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-21 23:48 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Expose available KVM free memory slot count to help avoid aborts Alex Williamson
2011-01-21 23:48 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] kvm: Allow querying free slots Alex Williamson
2011-01-21 23:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] device-assignment: Count required kvm memory slots Alex Williamson
2011-01-22 22:11 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Expose available KVM free memory slot count to help avoid aborts Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-24  9:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-01-24 14:16   ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-01-24 15:44     ` Alex Williamson
2011-01-25  5:37       ` Alex Williamson
2011-01-25  7:36         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-25 14:41           ` Alex Williamson
2011-01-25 14:45             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-25 14:54               ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 14:53             ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 14:59               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-25 17:33                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 17:58                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-26  9:17                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-26  9:20                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-26  9:23                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-26  9:39                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-26  9:54                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-26 12:08                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-27  9:21                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-27  9:26                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-27  9:28                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-27  9:29                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-27  9:51                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-27  9:28                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-25 16:35               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-25 19:13                 ` Alex Williamson
2011-01-26  8:14                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-25 10:23         ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 14:57           ` Alex Williamson
2011-01-25 17:11             ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 17:43               ` Alex Williamson
2011-01-26  9:22                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-31 19:18         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-23 21:46           ` Alex Williamson
2011-02-24 12:34             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 12:37               ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 18:10               ` Alex Williamson
2011-01-25 10:20   ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 14:46     ` Alex Williamson
2011-01-25 14:56       ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 14:55     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-25 14:58       ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 15:23         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-25 17:34           ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 18:00             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-26  9:25               ` Avi Kivity

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