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From: Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@computer.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@gmail.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, X86-ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Willy Tarreau <wtarreau@hera.kernel.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Dirk Hohndel <hohndel@infradead.org>,
	Dirk.Hohndel@intel.com, IDE-ML <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:59:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D427763.7080301@computer.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110125144905.GC27510@htj.dyndns.org>

On 25/01/11 15:49, Tejun Heo wrote:
> I'm afraid this is gonna be something which works sometimes (or even
> more times than not) but can't ever be made reliable.  I think it
> would be better to head toward usb or other kind of early console.

Apologies in advance if this is a stupid idea, but would it be possible 
and safer to dedicate a whole device (such as a USB thumb drive or a 
memory card) to this? You could initialise the media in a certain way to 
let the kernel know that it is OK to trample on the device.

You'd have a mkpoops command (make persistent oops :-). Perhaps this 
could be a new partition table type. The kernel could either auto-detect 
such a device or be told which-one to use. It could then, upon crash and 
prior to writing to it, re-verify that the device bears the hallmarks of 
being a poops device.

Thanks, Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-28  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-25 13:47 [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 13:51 ` [PATCH -next 1/2][RFC] x86: Saveoops: Switch to real-mode and call BIOS Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 17:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-25 13:53 ` [PATCH -next 2/2][RFC] x86: Saveoops: Reserve low memory and register code Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 17:29   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26  9:04     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 14:09 ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic Ingo Molnar
2011-01-25 15:08   ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-25 17:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26 11:44       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-02-03 14:36     ` Pavel Machek
2011-02-03 15:28       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-03 17:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-03 21:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-25 15:36   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 16:02     ` James Bottomley
2011-01-25 17:05       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 17:20         ` James Bottomley
2011-01-25 22:10         ` Mark Lord
2011-01-25 22:16           ` Randy Dunlap
2011-01-25 22:45             ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-25 22:58               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26  0:26                 ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-31  2:59                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-01-31 10:45                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-25 17:32     ` Tony Luck
2011-01-25 17:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-25 19:04       ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-25 14:49 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-28  7:59   ` Jan Ceuleers [this message]
2011-01-25 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-26 12:49   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-26 12:49     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-26 12:58     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-26 12:58       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-26 13:34       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-26 13:34         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-26 14:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-26 14:00           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-27  4:35           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-27  4:35             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-27 11:41             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-27 11:41               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-27 15:47               ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-01-27 15:47                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-01-27 16:12                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-27 16:12                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26 23:07     ` Luck, Tony
2011-01-26 23:07       ` Luck, Tony
2011-01-26 23:07       ` Luck, Tony
2011-01-26 23:07       ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon Luck, Tony
2011-01-26 23:16       ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic Dave Jones
2011-01-26 23:16         ` Dave Jones
2011-01-26 23:21         ` Luck, Tony
2011-01-26 23:21           ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]           ` <20110126233033.GB14807@redhat.com>
     [not found]             ` <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53019438EBB6@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]               ` <4D40F7F1.3020509@zytor.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20110127120039.GD20279@elte.hu>
2011-01-27 18:35                   ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon Luck, Tony
2011-01-27 18:35                     ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic Luck, Tony
2011-01-27 18:35                     ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]                   ` <4D4197CB.9070201@zytor.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20110127162429.GB26437@elte.hu>
2011-01-27 18:56                       ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon Luck, Tony
2011-01-27 18:56                         ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic Luck, Tony
2011-01-27 18:56                         ` Luck, Tony
2011-01-27  1:09       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-27  1:09         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
     [not found]     ` <20110127021338.GA20334@redhat.com>
2011-01-27  3:33       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-27  3:33         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-27  4:44       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-27  4:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-27  5:26         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-27  5:26           ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-27  7:51           ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-01-27  7:51             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-02-02 11:13             ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-02-02 11:13               ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-02-02 11:13               ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-02-02 11:13               ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk Ahmed S. Darwish

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