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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: SVM: check for progress after IRET interception
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:20:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D4AD5D3.1030706@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D4AD481.1020603@siemens.com>

On 02/03/2011 06:14 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-02-03 16:58, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >  On 02/03/2011 05:55 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   What's an interrupt window without IRET interception?
> >>
> >>  I don't the details, but I thought you could get something like an
> >>  interrupt-window-open interception by (fake-)injecting an IRQ and
> >>  intercepting on VIRQ acceptance. That will not work if returning to and
> >>  staying in irq-disabled guest code, therefore the timeout, but it should
> >>  be most efficient (specifically if the guest uses NMIs for things like
> >>  perf).
> >>
> >
> >  Since NMIs are used to break out of irq-disabled regions (watchdog, NMI
> >  IPIs during reboots) I'm wary of such a solution.
>
> Right, but we already use it for Intel. The timeout ensures that you
> can't get stuck forever. I think Xen works this way as well (minus the
> timeout - last time I checked).

Only without vnmi support, yes?  In that case, we can't do any better.  
In this case, we can, and we should, even at the expense of performance 
or ridiculous complexity.

> I hope AMD would finally realize what the left behind and improve it so
> that we can declare whatever "nice" solution just a temporary
> workaround. Will still take a few years, but we had the same situation
> on Intel.

Me, too, except that I'd like a correct implementation on the existing 
ISA.  As time goes by, it becomes more and more difficult to declare 
that all previous processors are an unimportant minority.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-03 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-03 15:02 [PATCH 0/2] SVM NMI fixes Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 15:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: Fix race between nmi injection and enabling nmi window Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 15:11   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 15:15     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 15:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: SVM: check for progress after IRET interception Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 15:07   ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 15:21     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 15:30       ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 15:55         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 15:58           ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 16:14             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 16:20               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-03 16:30                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-08 13:49     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-08 14:05       ` Avi Kivity

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