From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33088 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PmlHI-0001aW-Gj for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 05:58:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmlHG-0003OD-En for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 05:58:36 -0500 Received: from mail-wy0-f173.google.com ([74.125.82.173]:46873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmlHG-0003Nv-Ah for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 05:58:34 -0500 Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so5841024wyg.4 for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:58:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D51842C.8000209@codemonkey.ws> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:58:04 -0600 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4D3DFD20.8060004@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20110125091741.GB30239@edde.se.axis.com> <20110125133453.GC5427@amt.cnet> <20110207101255.GA20413@amt.cnet> <20110207160350.GA26332@amt.cnet> <4D501C71.7090708@redhat.com> <4D50279B.5010102@siemens.com> <4D505DCB.9050406@codemonkey.ws> <20110207214551.GB16429@hall.aurel32.net> <4D50A5F0.802@codemonkey.ws> <20110208072657.GD16429@hall.aurel32.net> <4D50FA14.5010100@redhat.com> <4D5103E8.6050808@siemens.com> <4D510771.3040309@aurel32.net> <4D511221.9030505@siemens.com> <4D5113D3.9090802@aurel32.net> <4D511500.1040303@siemens.com> <4D5115C2.6060008@aurel32.net> In-Reply-To: <4D5115C2.6060008@aurel32.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2/7] Enable I/O thread and VNC threads by default List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Aurelien Jarno Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi , Jan Kiszka , Marcelo Tosatti , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , Anthony Liguori , Paul Brook , "Edgar E. Iglesias" , Paolo Bonzini , Arun Bharadwaj On 02/08/2011 04:06 AM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Yes, it's slow. But is it a problem? You assume that people use QEMU > only for emulating SMP platforms. This is a wrong assumption. Beside the > x86 target, only sparc really supports SMP emulation. > It's *not* just about performance. TCG requires a signal to break out of a tight chained TB loop. If you have a guest in a tight loop waiting for something external (like polling on a in-memory flag), the device emulation will not get to run until a signal is fired. Unless you set SIGIO on every file descriptor that selects polls on (and you can't because there are a number that just don't support SIGIO), then you have a race condition. This can be fixed by running TCG in a separate thread than select() and sending a signal to the TCG VCPU when select() returns (effectively SIGIO in userspace). This is exactly what the I/O thread does. Regards, Anthony Liguori