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From: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com>,
	Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@redhat.com>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: libata: implement on-demand HPA unlocking
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:38:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D55823F.5000200@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110211182547.2ede69b5@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On 2/11/2011 1:25 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> When?  Is there any specific case you can think of?
> 
> Think about a raid volume where it is full disk and then the magic
> autolocking crap guesses wrong, the volume goes partly inaccessible while
> the box is running. Nasty mess.

So a whole disk raid volume that was built with a patched kernel that
always unlocked and therefore invaded the HPA gets upgraded and now the
array won't activate.  So now we have the intersection of two rare
configurations ( most people use partitions rather than the whole disk
), plus an upgrade.  Valid, but quite rare, and of course, they would
get the same problem if they ran the unpatched Linus kernel right now.
Seems to me this rare failure is the fault of using the patched kernel
and invading the HPA in the first place.

So you either leave the kernel as it is today and have this one problem,
or you patch it to always unlock, and get several other problems.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-11 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-08 20:23 libata: implement on-demand HPA unlocking Phillip Susi
2011-02-09  8:59 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-09 15:20   ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-09 15:37     ` Alan Cox
2011-02-09 15:36       ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-09 18:48         ` Jeff Garzik
2011-02-09 19:45           ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-10  9:44             ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-10 18:47               ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-10 19:07                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-09 19:39         ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-09 19:36       ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-09 20:47         ` Greg Freemyer
2011-02-09 21:12           ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-09 21:13         ` Alan Cox
2011-02-09 21:28           ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-09 21:39             ` Alan Cox
2011-02-10  0:23               ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-10 12:46                 ` Alan Cox
2011-02-10 18:58                   ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-10 19:19                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-11 18:16                       ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-10 12:49                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2011-02-10 19:20                   ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-10 19:35                     ` Alan Cox
2011-02-11 18:22                       ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-10 19:37                     ` Alan Cox
2011-02-09 21:41         ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-10  0:35           ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-10  1:46             ` Robert Hancock
2011-02-10  9:13               ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-10 19:11                 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-10 19:31                   ` Alan Cox
2011-02-11 18:18                     ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-11 18:25                       ` Alan Cox
2011-02-11 18:38                         ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2011-02-10 19:32                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-10 19:34                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-11 18:30                     ` Phillip Susi

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