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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	2nddept-manager@sdl.hitachi.co.jp
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] [GIT PULL][v2.6.39] tracing/filter: More robust filtering
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:34:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D5BD24F.3060601@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110215183558.GE30208@ghostprotocols.net>

(2011/02/16 3:35), Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 05:53:06PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker escreveu:
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:29:22AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 08:33 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for letting me waste three days on developing this. I even posted
>>>> an RFC a while back, and no one complained then.
>>>
>>> Sorry about being a bit bitchy in my reply here. I need to make a note
>>> not to reply to LKML before my first cup of coffee. ;)
>>>
>>> Arnaldo,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the post, I'll help you out where you need it. trace-cmd has
>>> some features that reports back to the user on failed filter usage. We
>>> can incorporate that into perf.
> 
> Thanks!

Sounds good :)

>  
>> Cool!
>>
>> That said I agree that we should not block improvements in the generic
>> filtering code because of issues in perf uses of filters.
>>
>> I believe it used to work better in perf by the past, but I saw similar
>> issues lately like those Ingo noticed. So probably something
>> broke and we need to investigate. But until then your patches are
>> still nice improvements: lesser memory usage, lesser kernel stack usage in the
>> fast path, lesser limitation, faster and smarter filter evaluation...
> 
> Yeah, usability of the --filter parameter in perf is a bit
> (understatement) lacking, one has to look at the /format thing in
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing... and not commit any mistake, else a generic
> invalid 22 message is spit out.

And also, there seems very less comment in perf-record.txt.

--filter=<filter>::
        Event filter.

Hmm, I think, at least, there should be a comment where user should
refer to and if possible, how he can use it...


> I tried it and after some back and forth changing hats and scratching my
> head while doing so, it got to work.
> 
> I talked with Steven and the same operation using trace-cmd would
> produce a better error report, stating that the field used in the filter
> expression was not valid.

If possible, please show us what parameters we can use on that event too.
perf list gives us a list of events, but not show us what parameters
we can use on those events. I think we can update perf list for that
purpose.

e.g.)
perf list --field kvm:kvm_entry
 unsigned short common_type;
 unsigned char common_flags;
 unsigned char common_preempt_count;
 int common_pid;
 int common_lock_depth;
 unsigned int vcpu_id;


> 
> I'll try to get that code from trace-cmd and glue that into
> tools/perf/util/, that eventually will get moved to tools/lib/ or
> something like that, as Borislav has been experimenting with for some
> time already.
> 
> The location in the source tree is not the most important thing at this
> point, usability improvements are, so I'm not rushing to moving code
> around all the time (even doing it more than I would like), lets try to
> improve usability first and then we can move it to tools/lib.
> 
> - Arnaldo


Thank you,

-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
2nd Dept. Linux Technology Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-16 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-08  1:56 [PATCH 00/14] [GIT PULL][v2.6.39] tracing/filter: More robust filtering Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 01/14] tracing/filter: Have no filter return a match Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 02/14] tracing/filter: Move OR and AND logic out of fn() method Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 03/14] tracing/filter: Dynamically allocate preds Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 04/14] tracing/filter: Call synchronize_sched() just once for system filters Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 05/14] tracing/filter: Allocate the preds in an array Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 06/14] tracing/filter: Free pred array on disabling of filter Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 07/14] tracing/filter: Use a tree instead of stack for filter_match_preds() Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 08/14] tracing/filter: Optimize short ciruit check Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 09/14] tracing/filter: Check the created pred tree Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 10/14] tracing/filter: Optimize filter by folding the tree Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 11/14] tracing/filter: Move MAX_FILTER_PRED to local tracing directory Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 12/14] tracing/filter: Increase the max preds to 2^14 Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 13/14] tracing/filter: Swap entire filter of events Steven Rostedt
2011-02-08  1:56 ` [PATCH 14/14] tracing/filter: Remove synchronize_sched() from __alloc_preds() Steven Rostedt
2011-02-15  4:44 ` [PATCH 00/14] [GIT PULL][v2.6.39] tracing/filter: More robust filtering Ingo Molnar
2011-02-15 13:33   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-02-15 16:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-02-15 16:53       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-02-15 18:35         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-02-16 13:34           ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2011-02-16 14:52             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-02-15 18:42     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-15 18:59       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-02-16  9:10         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-15 13:44   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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