From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Chunqiang Tang <ctang@us.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Strategic decision: COW format
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:59:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D652ED4.6040605@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D652C26.2010304@codemonkey.ws>
On 02/23/2011 05:47 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> I don't see how that works, since the memory image is duplicated for
>> each snapshot. So thousands of snapshots = terabytes of storage, and
>> hours of creating the snapshots.
>
>
> Fabrice wanted to use CoW to as a mechanism to deduplicate the memory
> contents with the on-disk state specifically to address this problem.
> For the longest time, there was a comment in the savevm code along
> these lines. It might still be there.
>
> I think the lack of on-disk hashes was a critical missing bit to make
> this feature really work well.
So you have to use dirty logging to see which pages changed, otherwise
you have to dedup all of them. Still I think migration/kemari is a
better fit for this.
>> Can you elaborate? What's the problem with a linear array of
>> snapshots (say up to 10,000 snapshots)?
>
> Lots of things. The array will start to consume quite a bit of
> contiguous space as it gets larger which means it needs to be relocated.
If you double the space each time, it amortizes out.
A snapshot seems to be around 40 bytes. So 10K snapshots = 400KB,
hardly a huge amount (sans pointed-to data which doesn't need to move).
> Deleting a snapshot is a far more expensive operation than it needs to
> be.
>
Move the last snapshot into the deleted entry?
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2011-02-15 19:45 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Comparing New Image Formats: FVD vs. QED Chunqiang Tang
2011-02-16 12:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-17 16:04 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-02-18 9:12 ` Strategic decision: COW format (was: [Qemu-devel] Re: Comparing New Image Formats: FVD vs. QED) Markus Armbruster
2011-02-18 9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Strategic decision: COW format Kevin Wolf
2011-02-18 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 8:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-22 8:56 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-22 10:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-22 15:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 16:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-22 18:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 9:13 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-23 14:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 14:55 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-23 13:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 14:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 14:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-23 15:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 15:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 15:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 15:59 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-23 15:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-23 15:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 15:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 16:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 16:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-25 11:20 ` Pavel Dovgaluk
[not found] ` <-1737654525499315352@unknownmsgid>
2011-02-25 13:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-23 15:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 15:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-23 16:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 15:33 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-02-23 15:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-18 17:43 ` Stefan Weil
2011-02-18 19:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-18 19:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-18 20:49 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-18 20:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-18 21:27 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-19 17:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-18 20:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-19 12:27 ` [Qemu-devel] Bugs in the VDI Block Device Driver Chunqiang Tang
2011-02-19 16:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-19 18:49 ` Stefan Weil
2011-02-20 22:13 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Strategic decision: COW format Aurelien Jarno
2011-02-21 8:59 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-21 13:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-21 14:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-21 15:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-21 15:26 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-23 3:32 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-02-23 13:20 ` Markus Armbruster
[not found] ` <OFAEB4CD91.BE989F29-ON8525783F.007366B8-85257840.00130B47@LocalDomain>
2011-03-13 5:51 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-13 17:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-14 2:28 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-14 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-14 13:53 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-14 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-14 14:21 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-14 14:35 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-14 14:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-14 15:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-14 15:08 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-14 14:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-14 14:30 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-14 14:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-14 14:25 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-14 14:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-14 16:32 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-14 17:57 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-14 19:23 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-14 20:16 ` Kevin Wolf
[not found] ` <OF7C2FDD40.E76A4E14-ON85257853.005ADD68-85257853.005AF16E@LocalDomain>
2011-03-14 21:32 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-14 14:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-14 14:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-14 15:03 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-14 15:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-14 15:04 ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-03-14 15:07 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-14 10:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-22 8:40 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-16 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Comparing New Image Formats: FVD vs. QED Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-17 16:04 ` Chunqiang Tang
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