From: Victor Engmark <victor.engmark@terreactive.ch>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Drew Northup <drew.northup@maine.edu>,
Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
Piotr Krukowiecki <piotr.krukowiecki.news@gmail.com>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Consistent terminology: cached/staged/index
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 09:43:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6CB1B3.1010005@terreactive.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878466.93199.1298934204331.JavaMail.trustmail@mail1.terreactive.ch>
On 03/01/2011 12:03 AM, Jeff King wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:34:00AM -0500, Drew Northup wrote:
> One analogy I like for the index is that it's a bucket. It starts out
> full of files from the last commit. You can put new, changed files in
> the bucket. When it looks good, you dump the bucket into a commit. You
> can have multiple buckets if you want. You can pull files from other
> commits and put them in the bucket. You can take files out of the bucket
> and put them in your work tree.
>
> So maybe it should just be called "the bucket"?
>
> I'm not sure that's a good idea, because while the analogy makes sense,
> it doesn't by itself convey any meaning. That is, knowing the concept, I
> can see that bucket is a fine term. But hearing about git's bucket, I
> have no clue what it means. Whereas "staging area" I think is a bit more
> specific, _if_ you know what a staging area is.
>
> So there are two questions:
>
> 1. Is there a more universal term that means something like "staging
> area"?
>
> 2. Is the term "staging area", while meaningful to some, actually
> _worse_ to others than a term like "bucket"? That is, does it sound
> complex and scary, when it is really a simple thing. And while
> people won't know what the "git bucket" is off the bat, it is
> relatively easy to learn.
I like the name "git bucket", as in "a git bit bucket", but semantically
the connection is just "a container". Especially for beginners this can
result in the wrong connotations:
* Limited size. A modern harddisk is vastly larger than most Git
repositories, likening it more to a container ship than a bucket.
* Definite size. Harddisk space availability varies with time, unlike
most containers.
* Non-linear use. A full physical bucket could be used for many
different things, but a full git bucket can either be forgotten (with
checkout), remembered temporarily (with stash), or remembered
permanently (with commit).
* Container-specific features irrelevant for git: Handles, translucency
(or not), depth, material, dimensions of the opening...
How about a metaphor like "plan"? You either cancel/undo it (git
checkout), postpone / shelf it (git stash), resume/continue it (git
stash apply) or commit to it. Coming from the desktop metaphor, I
personally like `git undo`, `git postpone/resume` and `git commit` -
They give a clear sense of direction towards the commit, and much
clearer verbs for those new to VC in general.
--
Victor Engmark
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-01 8:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-13 19:20 Consistent terminology: cached/staged/index Piotr Krukowiecki
2011-02-13 19:37 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-13 22:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 2:05 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 5:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 6:27 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 6:59 ` Johannes Sixt
2011-02-14 7:07 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 10:42 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 11:04 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 17:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 22:07 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 22:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 23:47 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-15 0:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 13:14 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-02-14 13:43 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 13:57 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-02-14 14:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-14 14:21 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-02-14 14:40 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-02-14 15:24 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 16:00 ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-14 16:04 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 16:27 ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-14 3:09 ` Pete Harlan
2011-02-16 23:11 ` Drew Northup
2011-02-26 20:36 ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-27 15:30 ` Drew Northup
2011-02-27 21:16 ` Aghiles
2011-02-28 20:53 ` Drew Northup
2011-02-14 22:32 ` Piotr Krukowiecki
2011-02-14 23:19 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-15 8:29 ` Pete Harlan
2011-02-15 9:00 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-15 18:15 ` Piotr Krukowiecki
2011-02-15 18:38 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-26 21:09 ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-26 21:51 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-27 0:01 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-27 0:16 ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-27 0:46 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-27 8:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-27 8:43 ` Jeff King
2011-02-27 9:21 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-27 22:28 ` Jon Seymour
2011-02-27 23:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-28 9:38 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-27 15:34 ` Drew Northup
2011-02-28 23:03 ` Jeff King
2011-03-01 9:11 ` David
2011-03-01 9:15 ` Matthieu Moy
2011-03-01 9:32 ` Alexei Sholik
2011-03-01 17:02 ` Drew Northup
2011-03-01 17:30 ` Alexei Sholik
2011-03-01 17:41 ` Drew Northup
2011-03-01 9:27 ` Alexey Feldgendler
2011-03-01 16:46 ` Drew Northup
2011-03-04 17:18 ` Felipe Contreras
2011-03-05 4:53 ` Miles Bader
2011-03-05 5:00 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-06 12:44 ` Drew Northup
[not found] ` <878466.93199.1298934204331.JavaMail.trustmail@mail1.terreactive.ch>
2011-03-01 8:43 ` Victor Engmark [this message]
2011-02-27 18:46 ` Phil Hord
2011-03-01 10:29 ` Jonathan Nieder
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