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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Adam Litke <aglitke@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] qapi: add query-version QMP command
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:37:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D77909B.90800@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D778A9F.80700@codemonkey.ws>

On 03/09/2011 04:11 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> (just picking on a patch that has a bit of schema in it)
>
>
> If you want to see more of the schema in action 
> http://repo.or.cz/w/qemu/aliguori.git/blob/refs/heads/glib:/qmp-schema.json

Thanks.  Something a little worrying is the reliance on capitalization 
and punctuation ( {} vs [] ) do distinguish among the different types of 
declarations.  It's not immediately clear if something is a type, event, 
or command.

We could do

[

{ 'type': 'MyType', fields: [['a', 'str'], ['b', 'int'], ['c', 
'AnotherType']] }
{ 'event': 'MY_EVENT', 'arguments': [ ... ] }
{ 'command': 'my-command', 'arguments': [ ... ], 'return': ... }

]

which leaves us room for additional metainformation.

The concern is more about non-qemu consumers of the schema.

>
>> Something that can be added to the schema are default values for 
>> newly added parameters.  This way we can avoid an explosion of 
>> commands where adding an optional parameter suffices; should be 
>> easier for the user to pick the right command and easier for us to 
>> document and support.
>
> Adding a parameter to a command, even if the schema specifies a 
> default value, is going to break the C library ABI so it's something 
> we should strongly discourage.

We could add compatibility signatures when we extend a command:


{ 'command': 'x', arguments: [['a', 'str']], return: ...,
    'signatures': { 'x': [], 'x2': ['a'] } }

That lets the wire protocol extend x without introducing a new command, 
but for libqmp it adds a new x2() API with the new parameter.

>
> We definitely want to systematically document defaults but the 
> question is whether that belongs in the documentation for the command 
> or the schema itself.  Since a default doesn't affect the wire 
> protocol in any way, shape, or form, I think there a pretty strong 
> argument that it belongs in the documentation and not the schema.

Agree.

>
> gtk-doc typically uses a tag to identify defaults.  I think it's 
> something like #default although that is purely a marking concept (the 
> value isn't parsed out or anything).  Whether we'd want to 
> automatically parse the value following the #default tag and change 
> the internal signature is probably a discussion we can defer.  Since 
> this only really should apply to structures, I suspect it's not a huge 
> win.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-09 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-07  1:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/22] QAPI Round 1 Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] Add hard build dependency on glib Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 10:59   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-07 13:55     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] qerror: expose a function to format an error Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 11:14   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:38     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] qapi: add Error object Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 11:06   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-07 13:59     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 14:24     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 11:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:55       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] qerror: split out the reporting bits of QError Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] qerror: add new error message for invalid enum values Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] qapi: add JSON parsing error message Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] json: propagate error from parser Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] qapi: add code generator for qmp-types Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:57   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] qapi: add code generator for type marshallers Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] qapi: add core QMP server support Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:39     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:46       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-07 13:54         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] qapi: add signal support to core QMP server Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:21   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 14:36       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 14:41         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] qapi: add QAPI module type Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] qapi: add code generators for QMP command marshaling Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:44     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 14:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] qapi: add query-version QMP command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:35   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:41     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:28       ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:44         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:51           ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:13             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:36   ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:11     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 14:37       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-03-09 14:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 12:41           ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 12:46             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 13:52             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] qapi: add new QMP server that uses CharDriverState Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 14:02     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] vl: add a new -qmp2 option to expose experimental QMP server Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] qapi: add QMP quit command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] qapi: add QMP qmp_capabilities command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] qapi: add QMP put-event command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:31   ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:48     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:58       ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:26         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 12:39           ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 14:12             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 14:24               ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 15:30                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 15:41                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 15:49                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 16:42                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-12 20:37                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 15:33                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 15:45                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 16:04                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-12 20:42                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-12 23:30                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] qapi: add code generator for libqmp Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] qapi: add test-libqmp Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] qapi: generate HTML report for test-libqmp Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  2:11   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: qmp-types.c and qmp-types.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: qmp-marshal-types.c and qmp-marshal-types.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: add qmp-marshal.c and qmp.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: add libqmp.c and libqmp.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/22] QAPI Round 1 Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 15:59   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 11:12     ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 13:35       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 13:45         ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 13:54           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:00             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 14:10               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:17                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 14:20                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:38                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:52                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 15:03                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 17:44                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 19:19                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09  8:51                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:12                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:14                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:51                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:55                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:15                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:51                                   ` Michael Roth
2011-03-07 20:59   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 22:00     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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